And so we'll go ahead and we'll start the local recording, you know Because the local recording is important in case one of these people on the other side, you know Not they're not the other side. They're our team But you know in case those people who run the other platforms, I should say in case they screw it up Then you know, we've got the local recording. That's very important So with the local recording begun We'll go ahead and get this show on the road because it is friday And we do this every friday at 9 30 p.m US Eastern time so if you're listening or watching with some other platform at some other time, I invite you to join us for live program You can do that at chris for can'twell.net slash live You can also do that on our odyssey station channel. I think is the word Go mtv and elsewhere when it's working, but anyway, let's go see what any culture has to say about all this nonsense That's it. It's over then we organize the death squads for the people who wrecked america You know what you call people you can't talk to enemies And if we want to divide our society Arms camps of enmity all we have to do is keep doing what we're doing Eradical agenda the event has turned into an opportunity for the laughs to push a racial and radical agenda Implementing the radical agenda is the only thing they care about their bad actors What they want to do here is ram their radical agenda down your truck This is great americans. These are people that want to see great things to the country You know, they try and build them like Yeah, it's one of a radical agenda. It's not a radical agenda school the second All right on with it. Welcome to the radical agenda to show about timeless ideas and news of the day and whatever's your and your mind A 217 688 1433. Yes, this agenda is quite radical and welcome to it This 53rd episode of six stage of the program today is february 2nd 2024 is occurring here. It's a friday as usual and we are coming alive once again from my undisclosed location where You know so much going on today presented a bit of a challenge creating a monologue for the show today Though it surely makes for easy work of creating a jam-packed episode We're gonna have some fun tonight And I think those of you who are watching live for joining us good love to hear from you 217 688 1433 as I said before On a wednesday surreal politics Member show I discussed at some length the case of justin moan you might have heard Who decapitated his father as punishment for being employed by the army corps of engineers I cleaned up the uh the Audio from that monologue and added some music to it And I think uh, I will play it for you momentarily And I think you're gonna like it if you haven't heard it yet And even if you listen to the member show, I think you're gonna like the way that what I did with it And a new detail emerged in that story several actually but a particular note to me is a fact that moan apparently surrendered a medical marijuana card In order to obtain the firearm he purchased the day before he used it to put a bullet in the brain of his father You know, I've uh, I've long said that contrary to popular belief marijuana is one of the most harmful drugs on the market I actually think that we do a major disservice People who advocate against marijuana by calling it a gateway drug I believe actually do their own calls a great injustice because The problem with marijuana is not that it leads to the use of other drugs though, you know To the extent that that's the case. It's obviously not good But marijuana itself is very very bad Uh, you know a heroin addict, you know, he might suffer more debilitating withdrawal symptoms when deprived of his chemical crutch But at least he has enough self-awareness to know that he has a drug addict, right? A fentanyl junkie Ricks overdose with each hit But he at least knows that he needs to find some portion of his day where the drug is only used to keep him level Even if only to steal efficiently Alcoholics destroy their bodies and their relationships They take unwarranted risks and destroy vehicles and families just to get to and from a bar But on his worst day the worst of drunks finds a few hours of sobriety Marijuana users are the only drug addicts who wake up in the morning and before taking a piss or having a coffee Begin their intoxication routine. They'll go right into the ashtray and grab that joint or their bowl or whatever Absen compelling forces many will remain in this state until they fall asleep at night Throughout the course of the day they will be under the influence of the drug and all of their decisions are made while high They hold the very unique distinction of being able to do this while denying that they are drug addicts With the support of prominent people who really ought to know better Analyzing bones video it is clear that he has some mental health issues He is not however a full-blown schizophrenic incapable of forming full sentences and his analysis of our political problems is largely sound So it is questionable to say the least whether he really believed he was the leader of a nationwide militia movement and in possession of 10 million Dollars to issue bounties on government agents One suspects he had more awareness of what he was doing than he let's on He might have thought that he was preparing an insanity defense for the murder of his father She might have done sands the politics But among the worst things that you could do is give drugs to the mentally ill that Justin mone would have had a medical marijuana Card to surrender is troubling in the extreme I do not know what symptoms he claimed to receive it But given that he already had written a book suggesting that he was the messiah It's fairly plain to see that just in mone was very troubled while prior to murdering his father and calling for revolution under the banner of the dead man's head Still more troubling is the notion that one simply turns in their card and by this act is deemed no longer a drug addict The question about substance abuse on the firearms background check form is not very well worded It asks are you as in at the instant of filling out the form Addicted to or an illegal user of controlled substances, okay So if you were a drug addict yesterday and you're not a drug addict today, then the answer is no, of course I'm not addicted to controlled substances It's just a question of in this moment are you addicted to controlled substances? Well, I don't know are you you know if you go in there and you're high on heroin then obviously You know at that time you're a user of controlled substances But you might not be feeling very addicted because you're high out of your fucking mind and you don't really have to worry about your withdrawal symptoms much But then again, you know, well, I was a user of heroin like 15 minutes before I walked into the store my user of one now So better right now. I'm gonna go to the door. I'm gonna promise to quit heroin I'm gonna go buy myself a firearm And uh when I do that I'll say no like I quit I quit heroin like 15 minutes ago I know I'm high But you know you're not asking me if I'm under the influence you're asking me If I am at this moment to use or no, I quit I quit a long time ago And for me 15 minutes is a long time, you know, I don't usually wait that long. I got no attention span It's not very well worded But if Justin moan had to pass a drug test to receive a six hour nine millimeter pistol Mike moan might still be alive today because marijuana is almost certainly Still in the fat cells of his son I'm not suggesting that we should implement that screening method only pointing out that one who is so dependent upon a drug that he would forfeit His second amendment rights to have the government feed his addiction is rid of that addiction By opting to purchase his crutches unlawfully One day you're a drug addict you fill out a form in that same afternoon you cease to be that's bureaucracy at its worst as a matter of fact I Metrical marijuana thing, you know, I've said a long time that medical marijuana is just a speed bump on the path to recreational legalization We're in every putt head in town is issued a card for symptoms ranging from depression to insomnia to headaches And eventually recreational legalization is not so much a change in policy as a codification of the de facto state of affairs that was always the aim of the people who lobbied for it and Those who did never made any secret of the agenda they set it out front like the whole entire point is to completely Deregulate this thing and this is just on the path. This is just one of the steps that we're taking Marijuana is just a plant then it's just medicine then you are denying sick people medicine by controlling it And then you're like well, it's medicine. It's a plant. What are you doing? Why is the government giving this money to these, you know Pharmaceutical corporations, you know, give it back to the people or whatever And I do it worse than that of course too because then they insert their whole, you know, racial animus into it And they're like well, you know, we've got to give We've got it. We've got to rep rate. We got to pay reparations to the black community for the war on drugs, of course, and so you know If you're if you're a drug dealer and your person of color is that that's the phrase they like to use most of the time BIPOC black indigenous people of color. So if you're a bipoc drug dealer And you went to prison in a lot of places you actually get like first in line to become like the legal marijuana dealer pretty good racket And so, you know, that's the this is the steps that they take in any case The process is predictable and destructive So the government was giving a powerful psychoactive drug to a man who was clearly mentally disturbed It stopped giving him that drug while making little effort to stop him from obtaining it elsewhere and then it gave him a gun instead What could possibly go wrong with that? And so, you know, and i'm not saying that marijuana made You know, Justin mown, murder his father cut his head off and make a youtube video About how it's not about race and the government's trying to divide us as if that you know, that was probably the craziest thing in there all His racial unity crap was probably the fucking craziest part. You know, it's like decapitated head racially egalitarianism Yeah, just go keep on, you know, you know, it used to be you might you used to be able to get a government job beheading people You know that was you know That was something you could take you could take pride in your profession and at some point that It's pretty recent phenomenon that somebody can go and like say with a straight face that roll the same That would not have flown throughout most of human history 2-1-7-6-8-1-4-3-3 you like to be on the program and the more you talk the less i have to so please give us a call I'm gonna play i'll play this clip from uh From the uh from the wednesday show real quick before we go on to the other subjects and there's plenty of other subjects to get to If you saw the email i sent out today You know what i'm talking about and you by the way, if you're not getting that email, what's wrong with you? Might be because you have like yahoo for your email provider and there are a bunch of criminals You know, or maybe have charter or road runner or one of these things You're gonna tell those people like hey, you know, I signed up for emails and you're not delivering them And I don't want you to do that because you don't decide who I talk to like I don't want to deal with that shit Oh, you can get a real email account. I have a really like a good email account It's called proton mail you get it syrupleteaks.com slash get pm that'd be a great idea If you're still using yahoo for your email address Or for that matter microsoft or gmail like what are you doing? Like why do you let these people control your communications? It's dumber than letting apple decide what telegram channels you could follow. It's really not smart I'm not calling you dumb or anything like that. I'm just saying that you made a bad decision hate to sin or love the sin That's what they say. That's what the Christians tell us, you know And so you go syrupleteaks.com say you get pm and then you can sign up for a A proton mail account and then like when I email you you can read it. It's a great feature I like that, you know proton mail has a lot of features right like they have like it's encrypted most notably They have like self-destructing messages really great service But probably the best thing about proton mail is that When you when you want to be emailed by someone and then they do what you ask them to do Proton mail and you can't do this and a lot of providers proton mail will actually let you read the email Like it'll get delivered. It'll be in your inbox. They won't mark it as spam, you know usually And then you just go and you click on it. It's like right there, you know I think it was like kind of the whole idea behind creating email in the first place, but then you know You know basically a bunch of jews ruined it. I think you know they do that a lot those jews They fuck up everything. I have a shirt on things that stretch So let's go ahead play this clip from Wednesday about the Justin moans situation. I'll be right back Things that stretch the imagination of course A recently released video Emerged in which and apparently mentally disturbed man rattles off some eminently reasonable concerns about america's ongoing political problems While discrediting those views by holding up the decapitated head of his father And claiming that he was the leader of a militia network with millions of dollars at his disposal Justin moan 32 years of age is being held without bond charged with murder abuse of a corpse and other charges Pennsylvania court documents show Perhaps most pertinently to his real politics members moans story is a predictable one in some sense in a scenario the likes of which I've had some apprehension. I might find myself in the center of our Circumstances are indeed dire as you know too well To explain the full gravity of our political problem sounds to most comfortable people like the rantings of a madman Because our reality has taken on this surreal character due to the sick machinations of those we hold in enmity To explain these things to people who are uncomfortable for whatever reason as the potential to explain at least psychologically Their discomfort whether or not the problems described are actually at the core of their discomfort They can assign blame in this way Circumstances within that individual whether they be mental illness or drug addiction or character flaws or bad relationships Sees to be a problem with that individual so far as that individual is concerned The disturbed person is given license to blame an omnipresent them For whatever it may be be it the deep state would the jews in new world order or simply the government or Society of the ever present and ever conspiring boogamen of capitalism the patriarch your white supremacy Their result is a plausible excuse not to look within oneself and address one's internal problems This constitutes much of our politics Even if most of the participants are not so unhinged as to decapitate a relative and declare war in the powers that be deeply disturbed individuals to vote their entire lives to Fixing society in an effort to make it conform to their warped vision of proper order This may emerge as trans activists demanding the state force honest people to lie with designer pronouns Or efforts to have a military invade and destroy a foreign land to eradicate real or imagined evils emanating their from Or mere demand of subsidy for valueless or destructive behaviors some person or group mistakenly believes is too important to go on rewarded The possibilities are quite literally endless especially when the pursuit of power becomes the only purpose of political speech Clever strategies spend unthinkable amounts of money hiring psychologists and the like Concerned only with convincing the populace to elect their partier candidate Political statements are crafted without concern for their veracity or the merits of the programs described The only purpose is a goal oriented manipulation of perceptions Inflaming passions promising the undeliverable for these folks it is all in a day's work There are no shortage of warning signs that our society is spiraling out of control But the story of just in mone is among the starkest when the man with the decapitated head correctly Assesses our problems and his mental illness only becomes evident when he starts in with the violence and delusions of grandeur The murderous fantasies of the psychologically broken and the realities of our world have evidently converge It became evident to me toward the end of 2018 that I need to exercise more caution how I address these problems When one discovers the full gravity of our social and political crises There emerges a sense that one must raise the alarm to tell as many people as possible of the direters of the situation But when a man takes that information is caused to walk into a house of worship and begin gunning down those not directly responsible for these crises It is not entirely unreasonable for society to blame the messenger To draw a parallel example reasonable people understand that pop culture has been a dangerous influence on our society Pernography too warps the minds of those who view it The consequences are rarely so directly evident as the example of the political extremist gun down has perceived enemies But they are all the more pervasive precisely because that less evidently calls a link There are those who can view disturbing material categorizes fantasy and live normal lives There are those who cannot Then there are the far greater number for whom the line is not so clear It influences their thinking in more subtle ways and shifts in less notable increments their perceptions To tell an educated well adjusted successful person about the true scope of our political crises may trouble him deeply But he understands that he cannot begin to solve those problems from prison or the grave He is thus all the more motivated to maintain his productive participation in society and make an impact toward a brighter future To tell a mentally disturbed individual who can see only suffering before him the exact same details Leads him to believe that prison or an early grave or his most likely destinations regardless of how he participates in society Met with this vision of his future he may seek to maximize his impact on the journey there too by taking others down with him I came to realize at some point that when I speak in public I speak to both classes in person Without some control over who listens I cannot help but be responsible for the ideas I put in the minds of the unhinged to some extent That knowledge presents no small challenge to a man in my position to communicate honestly risks tragedy and no less to decline Armed with some knowledge and a talent to convey the message inspiringly It is arguably to participate in a cover-up to keep silent or downplay the severity of the crises Yet to put in the minds of those incapable of handling them the ideas that lead to tragedy is neither without consequence or culpability for the speaker Words are our most powerful weapons a gun can kill a man with some assistance Nuclear bombs can destroy continents and insufficient quantity planets But only ideas can cause men to use them for those purposes and without men so motivated these objects are entirely inert The words are what convey the ideas absent then we'd be as harmless as any other mammals Capable of only doing so much damages our naked bodies could cause and at that only in pursuit of food and sex All right, welcome back to the radical agenda. Thanks for sticking with me through that there I'll be interested in your feedback on that one. You know, I posted that to telegram and it got like two lightning bolts and I was like Oh, well, that was You know, I'm not I'm not compliment fishing here. I'm genuinely interested. You know, I've I've only bothered to put um, a musical background like a couple of these Monologues that I've done. Uh, it takes a little while to do Not least of all just like find the the music I have these like licensing services that You know, I've told you before I used to get all these intellectual property complaints for playing music on a show Oh, I just a little system notification making noise on my podcast who cares fine Um, uh, uh, do this system sounds off. We'll do that. That's a good idea. I should probably do that before every episode Um And so uh, let me you know chris for catwool.net slash contact is how you can um Contact me privately. Of course. You're welcome to leave comments on the odyssey channel, etc 21768 1 433 you like to be on the program and i'm where you told the less I have to so please do give us a call Let's go to this uh, this uh, fine fellow right here before we go on through the rest of this stuff We got caller. You are on the radical agenda. What's your agenda? Oh, good evening chris. Um, you know, I'm really glad that I find that I've gotten through I've been a fan of your show for some time I really liked your monologue and it's a shame that people on telegram were too pigheaded to give it the more More attention that it deserves. Oh, I did great people. You know, I I wouldn't say that they are uh, you know I a lot of them heard it already. So, you know, it's uh, I it's not a mock against them Uh, but I appreciate your sentiment in any case, friend Oh, you're you're very welcome chris. I you know, I I really I like telegram myself But you know, so the reason I called and you know, I like what you say the more you talk the less I have to We're gonna see if that's true because i've got a bit of things to say but i'm not gonna haul I'm not gonna steal the limelight from you or anything Um, but what I have to say is Sorry, sorry, no go ahead buddy Okay, well, so what I was gonna say is So I watched your show last night for the first time in a while because you know, I just recently gravitated to odyssey And welcome aboard last week's show Thank you You so you played that clip from your ranch from 2017 when you were going on about like, you know, the the fierce like proud Roman white area ethos and masters of war and all that And that's it's good. It's true But see here's the thing though is that if we're gonna have a serious discussion about what the white area ethos is We also have to discuss and know clearly in our minds what it is not And what the white area ethos is not and this is not going to make me a popular person for saying this but it is not christianity Well, you know, I think that there's uh When you say you're it's not gonna make you a popular person. It'll put you in some good company for sure But there's gonna be no shortage of disagreement about that. You know, I I'll let you continue with your point. I'll just insert quickly that you know, I don't think that the As you you're describing the white area ethos I don't think that that's a that's a phrase that I've used frequently for sure but I I think that The way you're using that term it's probably true what you're saying that it is not the same thing that these are two different categories of idea Uh, and so I think that you know so far what you've said is fair But of course, you know christianity has been with white folks a long time. I mean, you know most of our Meaningful history. I would say has been conducted as as christian nations, but go ahead Well, see here's the thing So christianity is controlled opposition and I know you've talked about that a lot in your um in your shows See christianity did not exist um As far back as 200 BCE the world was united under a pagan king or at least most of the populated civilised world at the time Was united under a king named and tick and tikkis epithani Which is where the word epiphany comes from and it means like uh bringer of the divine touched by mithra So the jews being jews we're going around the region known as the holy land or what have you doing communism and other blood sacrifice and other deplorable things and uh epithani is was like no we can't allow these guys to be doing this and so He united the pagan world against them where they were driven from every nation And then they set upon rome and when they saw rome it is said that even in some of their rabbinical texts that they wept at the majesty of rome And felt nothing more than a compulsion to destroy everything rome is and stood for And so what they did then was they went into a self-imposed exile Where they meticulously catalogued and observed where the pagan peoples and pagan kingdoms drew their strength and they drew their strengths From you know their pagan unity and the gods and so on and so forth So what they then did is they invented this fabricated religion That but their new religion They stole all of the different uh pagan myths stole from them and instead of including the gods They replaced them with fictitious jewish characters the character of jesus is based on the uh disciple of apollo apolly on us almost verbatim Only without the blood sacrifice and all that like you know rape and all the other terrible things And so what they then did is they set upon rome as simple merchants You know pretending. Oh, no, you know all of that blood sacrifice all of that nasty stuff Oh, we're not like that now just give us your poor. You're sick and you're hungry You know we're just here as humble merchants. We just want to help the less fortunate and the Romans You know the Romans underestimated them You know they didn't realize how subversive these people were and it's not and so you know the early christianity targeted, you know the sick the the The unintelligent the the lazy people that rome did not want but had no but no wasn't There wasn't just going to kick out because they weren't in it. They weren't Directly a threat to rome Well then As they began to gain influence and power they set upon with a phabian strategy phabian strategy being based off of a roman general's own strategy which is basically to simplify it's death by a thousand cuts rather than by a simple, you know like staggering blow So christianity began to slowly muster followers and followers and gain political influence through their, you know charitable works and so on and so forth The latin cross which has become a staple of christianity was actually a symbol of the goddess nemesis As can be seen in a greek symbol which is the latin cross with a an upward Hourglass and it stands for divine justice It wasn't until the seventh century that the latin cross began permeating through churches and then until the ninth century in rome uh when it was fully adopted or Whoever that may have been and my point being is not to bash You know white people that are fighting against the Jew because ultimately we as whites do have to unite against the Jew My message is a message of unity and that is that if you fight the Jew materially with one hand But then you go to a church and you bless him with the other because every page of the bible talks about how jesus is a june Jews jews is real bow down to jews Let jews save you if your enemy is the jew Praying to a Jew for salvation against jews is not going to bring you that salvation My point being is that white people and I myself am a proud white man and we have to be united mentally spiritually and emotionally in order to defeat this monster that is judea and put it down for the 10 count Because everywhere that jews have ever been ousted christianity moves right in afterward christianity is the quote unquote spiritual program that this you know Controlled opposition that is the republican party that you often see in america is it's just they're two The pope or republican party being the material angle of it. Whereas christianity being the spiritual angle Jews have never been able to defeat paganism And so they created a kosher enemy that they could defeat And now an example of this why we must be material we can't just oppose them materials We also have to oppose them with everything that we have an example of this is the vietnam war So the vietnam war was hardly a crusade But the jews as any studied person knows are always the ones behind communism and the ones promoting communism Leclavitovich bronze team the Bolshevik revolution all of that kind of stuff all jews Different clothing communism is jewish from head to toe and always has been Now the vietnam war you had the american forces going over there Every time the american forces clashed in battle in vietnam against the forces of communism They always prevailed on the field that on the field of battle yet regrettably they lost the war and vietnam ended up becoming a communist state because Yes, there was because the jew was left unopposed running rampant back home Where these you know the american forces thought they were fighting for this god And it's like The jewish god that is called jahova is not your god It's a jewish god whose name in and of itself in and of itself was stolen from the greek god jove There is nothing original in any of the things that they do they steal Lie in sheet and then they destroy the evidence of their theft or attempt to and then pretend like what they have said has been the truth all along And this is all the the jew has never changed all throughout history. He has never changed um All right, so that's an interesting take let me ask you a couple of questions here um Okay, if that's the case then you know the Islam sort of is you know, it comes after christianity, right? So, you know, you have the the old testament or the jews called to torah christianity comes around and jesus is in the karan and basically Suggesting the chronology of events in any case and so I don't get the impression that islam is a is a tool of jewish subversion to you I do in fact jew in islam is absolutely a tool of jewish subversion islam is much more barbaric if Christianity is the light side of juda of the jewish soul then islam is the dark side of the jewish soul And they promote these things to distance jentiles Because arab the people if they're not racially mixed are also whites and the jews The two biggest places where they faced opposition was white europe and egypt and egypt had a ton of white errands so islam has been a tool of the jews to try to strip racial memory and subvert arab whites Into this barbaric and the neolithic pattern of behavior and basically what they have what what what and the the reason behind this Is because the jew is not strong enough to meet his enemy and direct and open combat and survive And so the jew always thrives on trying to trick other people who are stronger but less knowledgeable To fight against themselves and to kill themselves. It's like, you know if if there is two jentiles Regardless of whether they be white black or asian that kill each other at the end of the day That's a good day for a jew Because if the jentiles are killing each other then they're not killing jews and like let me and let me say i'm not I'm just talking from the historical standpoint. I'm not advocating violence against any people Well, thank you for inserting that necessary disclaimer um I think that there's um There's ample cause to You know, i'm probably not in a position to do it, but I think there's cause to dispute your finding that Muslims are by nature white I think of white folks as being hailing from europe and it doesn't seem to me that Islam was ever the dominant religion there It's becoming that way now and it's uh, that is obviously um, that's that's something that the jews are, you know Really getting a kick out of um, I think it was interesting that I imagine you might have seen this that Gavin mcgittis went on with um with Enoch phuentes and his jewish friend Uh to debate, I don't know, I forget if it was the holocaust or what it was but then you know Uh phuentes or his partner asked the jewish friend of mr mcgittis So, you know if you had you could destroy, you know, say islam or the catholic church Which would it would be and it didn't take that jew half a second to turn around and be like I would get rid of the catholic church in harpy because i'm a jew and that's what we do No, it's not exact his exact words, but it didn't take a long to say the catholic church And so well and and Go ahead. Oh my my point is that if if if if christianity is some kind of jewish plot Why are they trying to rack it all the time? Because it's controlled opposition that it served its purpose Christianity do is want christianity gone because it already achieved its goal of stripping the racial memory and Stripping the knowledge of the spirit from white people and replacing it with this jewish amalgamation this agrigor That has nothing to do with our soul and its roots And so now what they don't want to have happen is exactly kind of what's been going on Which is where christianity turns into this fucking this monster where it's like neither jentile nor jewish And it's just this like beast that spasming about in the room and like and So that's why and then also Also, the other reason for that is because one of the things that jews do is jews debate each other and they Pretend to fight amongst themselves all the time so that they can reveal each other's weaknesses so that they can try not To try to get rid of those things So like a lot of people see this dispute between jews and christianity and they're like oh they're enemies No, they're not enemies. They are pretending to be enemies publicly But in fact they both work towards the goal of enslaving everybody who's not jewish. There's a quote from pope leo V i d or something like that. It's one of the popes and his quote is that it has served us well this myth of christ And there's also a Catholic i'm sorry it has served us well what i didn't catch that Uh, he said the pope leo said it has served us well this myth of christ Meaning that from the highest order in the catholic church They know that it's not true that it's a lie and that they've been deliberately promoting it to disarm Specifically white gintile peoples Well, i'll say um I don't think that it's the most controversial statement that A religious leader lacks faith in the historicity of the religious text that doesn't i don't know that that's the most important part of a religious doctrine Too many religious people i've i've had conversations with people who take christianity pretty seriously and and they'll tell me that um that they they they you do not believe that the You know the bible is a historical record say that this is a a story that serves a purpose Right and so you know there's a distinction to be made there between Not believing that these events actually transpired and not believing the doctrine of the faith I think that there's a distinction to be made and the the quote that you give me Says that okay. He he does not believe in the historicity of the text But that does not mean that you are inferring from other factors that Oh, yeah, well, this is a tool of the jew to subvert my people right? That's not that's not what the pope said That yes, I mean you're right in so far as that and uh, you know If you would like because I definitely do think that you're very much a historical and uh Uh type of man that likes to do his research So i'm i can i can tell you the website and it's affiliates where i have received this knowledge and All of these websites have cataloged and documented and extremely valuable, uh cited So go ahead you can you can name the site go ahead Okay, so the website is called w w w dot Exposing christianity dot com And it has several affiliate websites for also super based but you can get to those from the main website. So Www dot Exposing christianity dot com i think you know my my take on this is that christianity does not emerge as Something that jews wanted it seems to be that christianity was a revolt against the jews It doesn't seem to be to be what you're describing it as and i hear this theory from time to time And it doesn't it doesn't jive with my understanding of it right i mean it is basically It it refutes the entire text right so you know nicha commented that the idea that the god of the old testament the god of the new testament Are the same you know consciousness is preposterous right because you know the god of the old testament is like yeah We'll go we're gonna go and kill every suckling in the city or whatever And the god of the new testament is like turn the other cheek and forgive everybody okay So it's like that's where you know that guy had a fucking change of pace I don't know if he went to fucking rehab or what happened but like you know well the seat Good Well That's the thing though is that it's supposed to look that way because it mirrors what the jews themselves did They were being openly neolithic and barbaric and it resulted in them having their ashes handed to them by every pagan kingdom You know in the ancient world so then they had this quote unquote change of heart It's not a real change of heart. It is the illusion of a change of heart They never changed what they were doing rise They changed what they were doing publicly And it is because of this that they were able to freaking you know get their roots into roman begin to subvert roman by the time It's not like they tried to recruit aerosol or play-toe or the other you know like Mighty of roman the Greco roman world, you know they targeted people that were destined to that were either too You know ill to really You know care or people that were too lazy or you know the criminally minded people that really just genuinely did not care And then you know it's by the time like you know people realize this monster and this virus for what it is you know then it was too late and then Rome eventually fell and then but then the virus had been communicated over to england Where then the king james bible originated and all of this stuff and it's like You know all of that is just made to make To make x to make christianity sound as if it is more white when in fact it is not But I mean, you know christianity has been with white people as I said through through most of our you know Most of the history of white people that that people who would hear this recording Would find significant has been conducted as christian nations, right? And so like you know do we have do we have a pre-christian history? We certainly do I'm not and and without that history. We don't have our christian history So i'm not denying the foundational importance of paganism or what have you but it seems to be that You know the accomplishments of you know european peoples of european ancestry Are are the greatest accomplishments that we can think of today or conducted as christian nations? Do you dispute that? Well, I do not dispute that the nations themselves that did that consider themselves to be such But what I do dispute is that the people that are mostly responsible for that Are probably not as christian as you might think for example The founding fathers of the united states were not christians despite what the despite what the history books may tell you they were not christians Why would someone who and the history books will tell you oh, you know they you know the the colonists went over to the americans on the mayflower to escape Religious persecution. Well if that's the case Why would you flee across the sea to establish your own new nation to escape religious persecution only to reestablish a variant of the same religion that you were fleeing it makes no sense well Actually, well just real quick, you know on that particular point you can make sense of that pretty easily as a matter of fact Okay, so you know in england um, there was a lot of controversy between christians of course, okay the catholic church and the and the and you know the lutherans Were you know there was more than a little hostility between these groups say and so you know, that's literally that That's the historical record that that's the religious persecution that they were freeing fleeing And when you when you hear about Hang on a second and so you know if the original intent the original concept of Religious freedom in the united states was we're not going to tell you how to worship christ You know it wasn't you can create a spaghetti god and have equal footing with jesus It was yeah, we're all christians and we don't need to be destroying each other over our different conceptions of you know what the bible tells us to do and Even if they're not even if they were not you know You say that the founding fathers were not christians. I think that there's people who would you know raise evidence to dispute that I understand from some familiarity with the argument that there's evidence in support of what you're saying. I'm not disputing that but You know these people came they their entire lives were informed by a christian tradition They were born into a christian nation. They were raised as christian people. They read the bible They went to christian churches and so their whole entire perspective is informed by christianity whether they you know believed it or not Or to or how christian they were as a you know as a difficult thing to measure say But you know they were informed by a christian tradition and and the laws of the united states are largely based on that tradition as well Don't you think? Um, I would say that the christianity The influence of christianity on the laws of the united states and its founders are greatly exaggerated As I would also say that the history that we have is also greatly greatly Horrifically altered beyond the level that most people would be even like but that most people would be ready to comprehend I mean the rewrite and the cover up and the alteration of documents and historical accounts is absolutely Exhausted it's the kind of thing that really even for people that consider themselves, you know to be like oh well You know most normies would consider me a conspiracy there's if even reaching for people that already consider themselves awake to the truth It's even it's that I mean it's that grand You know we're talking about we're talking about you know a war between two contrary types of souls You know the souls of jews and the souls of non-Jews that dates back to antiquity You know almost to before the time of written history and if not longer I'm not entirely sure but that website I recommended you and its affiliate websites has all the information much more succinctly than my than my humble voice can do Well, you know and and people who are interested in the subject. I wouldn't discourage them from checking it out. You know I have to uh You know point out the obvious which is that these people obviously have an agenda to pursue and so you know I doubt that they're portraying a great deal of um the contrary evidence from the from the name of the website that you gave but You know, I I think that let me ask you this What do you think ought to happen then? I mean it doesn't seem to be we have a society today drifting away from religion as a general matter in Christianity in particular It's on it's under constant assault and in my estimation the nation is not improved by this circumstance It seems to be quite the contrary that in direct correlation with the diminishment of religious influence in public life today That the nation actually gets a lot worse Now, I don't I'm not sure that it's a realistic prospect to have some kind of like religious awakening and everybody starts going to church on sunday And that's gonna straighten it out. But it I don't actually see um a much brighter alternative than that frankly because If people don't have that thing if they if they don't have that religious If that religious component of the mind is not occupied say Of vacuum forms and other nonsense ideas fill it. That's I think largely how you get transgenderism and left-wing nonsense, right? It seems to me that whether whether true or false or whether destructive or not It seems to me my observation of human psychology is that you know There's a religious component of the human psyche and that actually requires fulfillment and and so it has to be filled with something I think and I Am I'm able to observe that there's far more destructive doctrines than Christianity. What do you have to say to that limited point? Well, what I have to say to that mr Camwell is that I agree with you in fact And what I'm saying what I'm saying is that that foundation that's spiritual backbone within the souls of men That does require fulfillment is not Christianity and it is in fact paganism our original pre-christian faith That is what I'm saying that it is because and if you look at the track record how many times, you know, it's like freaking We didn't have the problems With the jews that we did That we do now back when everybody was pagan. It's like yes They were a thorn in people's sides back in the pagan world not this horrific, you know abomination that has seized financial monetary and Institutional power in almost every country and so something had to have given what Happened that caused it to where people were where Jews were just a minor inconvenience that people spat on and just you know Shund to where now they are just saying this titan that has to be toppled at all costs And I'm telling you whether you agree with me or not that that turning point was the advent of Christianity Well, I think that there's there's cause to dispute that timeline, you know Christian nations Were for you know a pretty long time rather notoriously anti-semitic in large part, right? Like that's a pretty recent phenomenon that like you know, I forget what year it was But I'm pretty sure it was in the 1900s that the Catholic Church was like yeah We got to stop, you know treating Jews badly or something So you have this you know hundreds of years of Christian history before the Catholic Church turns around it's like yes stop persecuting Jews Well and I would say that the reason for that is is because that people that were involved in Christianity began to see through the cracks, you know people began to read the Bible for what it is and not what it is intended to be received as and started realizing that Jews are the problem and I mean, you know it takes You know freaking people there, you know, some people adjust to things more quickly than others But I mean but yeah, you know, I mean but you know a person's adjustment to a thing is a different category of phenomenon that I'm discussing Right. I mean if you've ever read Martin Luther on the Jews and their lies I mean this is the foundation of the you know the Protestant tradition, right? he splits off from the Catholic Church and You know and and you know creates the the religious You know schism that creates the religious persecution that the United States has formed on okay He wrote a book called titled on the Jews and their lies We're basically telling them to eat pig shit. I forget the exact quote but it was pretty fucking brutal and like you know and and so this that's where you know Protestantism begins is with it with an anti-Semite and And he didn't do that because the Catholic Church was all like Jews Jews Jews, right? So I mean that's the early history of the of the religious tradition that you're talking about and so you know I think that it just give me a second, you know, I'm not it's actually not lost on me Destructive elements of Christian doctrine like I think turn the other cheeks is just like I mean it's just suicide, right? You know forgiving your enemies is like oh, you know who wants you to do that people in need of fucking forgiveness, right? You know people who have wronged you require forgiveness and so you know there's problems to be had there for sure You know but you know when I hear these arguments and I hear them from time to time It's not unusual for me to be exposed to what you're saying You're probably better at articulating it than most of the people who do it and so good for you But you know it it it it necessarily ignores a lot of facts I think you know when you when you when you say that this is something that was some kind of Jewish plot There's too many plot holes in that story to sustain it in my view Well see the thing is that I think that a lot of what we consider to be evidence to the contrary of my statement is in fact tailored and authored by Jews and if and if not authored by Jews Then at a later time altered by them through translation or whatever else it may be or by someone who's been paid by Jews Or something like that because the cover-up of our history and not just spiritual history But also material history. I mean I honestly this part and like I'm starting to veer into the territory of conjecture What I'm I wouldn't be surprised to find out if the freakin if the wordings and writings of Martin Luther were deliberately altered to make it seem More Christian than they originally were but obviously that part when I just said that's conjecture I personally don't have any evidence of that but evidence of that may or may not exist. I'm not entirely sure but um But but such but such conjecture becomes required to sustain this idea right you go from Okay, here's the evidence in support of a theory that Christianity is a Jewish plot to here's a bunch of evidence in Contrevention of that to well, I theorize that these dastardly Jews have created that Okay, and and that that's a common pattern in these conversations that I've had it it goes from Here's a bunch of evidence of a thing in response to the contrary evidence I I posit theories that are not supported by evidence, you know and and just as a you know an analysis of a thought process That doesn't seem it seems to be like somebody comes at a thing with a predetermined Position and will and will justify it as they must Well and see like so, you know the only the only person really that I can say about it There was something else I wanted to mention but it's definitely I Definitely do recommend that at least you yourself check out that website. I recommended at your leisure. No pressure, of course Did you say was that the was at the name? The WWW dot exposing at Christianity okay, well, you know, I I don't know how much time I'm gonna be able to devote to that if I'm honest with you, but you know, it's uh, it's a it's an interesting subject to say the least of it You know, I'm not I'm not I cannot in good faith call myself a Christian. I'm sometimes 10 attempted to do so It because I well for for a litany of reasons. I'm not gonna get into today But like I don't believe that you know, I don't believe it's a historical fact that Jesus That that God impregnated a virgin who then gave birth to God's son who then died for my sins I don't believe that that's an accurate description of history and so on the on the basis of that disbelief I I don't think I'm I'm I don't think that I would I think I would do a dishonest thing to call myself a Christian, but The people who I find myself most in tune with these days are Christians You know and and and I think that that's not and I have difficult I have a great deal of difficulty discarding that that observation because it seems to me that they're the ones who are being persecuted by Jews it seems to be that the Jews are always trying to Destroyed them and that their convictions there their belief that they they are obligated by God to do good on this earth and that and that they're only here as a consequence of They're only purpose on this earth is to You know prove themselves in an afterlife. That's that might not be the best description of it, but it's it's fair enough that Because of that viewpoint They're willing to incur risk that people who don't have a God will not incur right like if you don't believe that you have a If you don't believe that you have a reward in the afterlife and there's not much cause to suffer While alive, you know, and I don't think that you can simply replace that I don't think that religion is something that you say well this religion is inferior and therefore we're going to come up with a superior doctrine Like that's actually very difficult to do right and and go ahead Well, I agree with you in so far as that and that it's difficult to replace with some new thing But what I'm what I'm talking about is not some new thing It's the original thing like it's always been there it's the original, you know pagan traditions and pagan faith and the thing about it is That the thing about it is You hold on give me it's just a moment. It's um You're doing a great job, buddy. You're one of the better haulers. We've had on the show. You're doing great. Oh Thank you. Thank you very much. I really appreciate you saying so So the thing is it's like, you know, they talk about like Christians talk about how you know this this Rabbi from Nazareth is supposed to save you save you from what? racial awareness Community with your family no like that's that's that's a very recent phenomenon people talking about that way Jesus is God generally you know Jesus is going to Jesus forgets your sins, okay, and in my view that like the the historicity of that is irrelevant What's important is that you know that you're a sinner and that you require redemption? Right and and like if people don't have that consciousness about themselves, you know My life even though I don't believe in Christianity per se like my my views closely adhered They closely hew to that line which is I live in like a constant state of guilt Like I just I operate on the assumption that I'm terrible and then I have to prove myself wrong about that every single day Right and if I don't do that If if I don't like I have some awareness I've done terrible things in my life So like I have some awareness that if I'm not constantly trying to you know Be a good person that I will be a monster which is closely adheres to this idea that we're all sinners right and and so like go ahead And I mean that's true that you do definitely need to be a good person That is definitely a spiritually ordained thing that you have to be a good person. However, I personally I do not believe that me being born to this earth in a natural like, you know a natural process I do not believe that I am guilty of anything. I am not a I am I was not born into sin I was born into the world from my non-Jewish mother and my non-Jewish father and There is nothing wrong with me about that. Do I have issues that need to be addressed? Of course I do everyone does but it is not a crime or a quote-unquote sin to be born And to be alive. You're not guilty of anything Well, maybe you're not you're not guilty of anything for being born, but it is inevitable that over the course of a life Over the course of a life that emerges past the point of being able to form language That you will do bad things like I I think that you know It's inevitable that someone as young as two years old goes and does wrong right? You know whether how much they were aware of it is another question, but like you know children will lie to their parents Say right they'll take they'll steal okay, and they'll under they'll have some concept that what they've done is wrong right and You know they try to you know You educate them over the course of their lives to try to you know fight those impulses But as a matter of fact like you're I think I believe that it's a reasonable statement a fact that human beings have Impulses and instincts which which are at odds with social cooperation, okay, and they have to repress Manually through their intellect Those impulses, okay, and they have they need a reason to do that right and and you could try to explain to them You know well, you know the whole country depends upon us obeying the laws or something But you know that most people require a simpler explanation for things there's somebody watching and you're gonna get caught You're gonna get in trouble is is actually a more you know cognitively efficient doctrine say Oh, yeah, you know and so and I guess you know you could you could have that with other religious traditions clearly But it seems to be that that's that's that one works pretty well And then like the idea that I also think like the forgiveness of sins doctrine and in Christianity is like important right? I thought it was great. Well Michael Knowles once said that Christians they They deal with the abortion issue better than then left-wing supposed atheists who are just you know They worship differently, but they purport not believe in a god, you know, he's that he's like okay. Well Christians are They take I'm failing to comprehend remember the exact quote, but it's to the effect that Christians take abortion more in stride because They believe in forgiveness that like you know the the leftists who believe in abortion as a sacrament of their faith They have to maintain that because there's no forgiveness of sins and so if they murdered their child Then they can't be forgiven for that if it's wrong say okay a Christian can like a Christian could go to confession and be like I am so sorry for what I've done God, please forgive me and then he could be redeemed and then he can move or she in that case She could be redeemed and she can move on with her life as like a whole person who is no longer damaged by her wrong doing you know and I hear I hear what you're saying And my my take on it is that you know a lot of these concepts You know these concepts that ring true and ring sensible and things like that they Chris the reason why it seems legitimate is because Christianity was created as a freaking alternative to The pagan truth like things such as the forgiveness point that you brought up and other things like that those also had their roots in Paganism the paganism that everybody was practicing It's like if they created if the Jews created this false religion that is Christianity and there was literally It was completely and totally on its face alien to everybody around Nobody would have ever believed in it. Nobody would everybody would have seen it for what it was and we wouldn't have the situation that we have today You know it was that's why the Jews stole from the pagan myths and just kept most of the myths intact But then replaced the gods with Jewish characters and then just skewed at the morality to fit Jewish morality Where what what was once considered to be the high octave was now the lowest of the low and evil and deplorable? and what was once you know unthinkable is now the moral standard by which people strive and I mean there is There are litany's upon litany's of evidence of this having taken place and Yeah, I mean freaking I don't have all that evidence on hand In the course of a call into a radio show it's difficult to produce all the documents I get that well, you know buddy I I have other people on hold and I got to move on but you've been a great call I hope you do it again and we can we can pick this up another time. I'll let you I'll let you wrap up with ever following thoughts you have That's that's all I had to say Christian. You know I appreciate you giving me an ear and being receptive to what I had to say and You know what man, you know freaking you know, let's unite the white man You know, let's let's let's freakin. Let's put this. Let's put Judea down to the tent count Thank you very much for the call my friend two one seven six eight eight one four three three If you'd like to be on the pogrom and a boy told the lesson I have to so please do give us a call call Are you on radical agenda? What's your agenda? Oh, this is Hadding hey Hadding I Am I actually studied Latin and ancient Greek? I'm in graduate school and so I've read ancient texts So I know some things that most people don't know about About the ancient Roman and Greek world One of the interesting pieces of literature that I read was a novel a Roman novel called the golden ass written by a Carthaginian named apuleus and The interesting thing about that is that the last chapter of this ancient novel has an initiation into the cult of Isis and and This initiation into the cult of Isis is exactly the same as the ritual That Jesus undergoes a night before his crucifixion. It's exactly the same ritual they put a Read in his hand as a kind of a royal scepter and they put What could be called a crown of thorns on his head which is something I think been missed in screwed I don't think it was supposed to be a torture. I think it was a Crown basically made out of a palm leaf with a point sticking up It's exactly the same ritual and there are other parallels between You know Jesus and the cult devices for one thing they're nailing To a cross so it was an unusual thing to do and they did it There was an occasion where there was a scandal involving priests of Isis in Rome and these priests of Isis were nailed to crosses specifically Because it was believed that they could turn into birds and fly away Do you have to nail them to keep them from doing that? So this punishment that was inflicted on Jesus is exactly The peculiar punishment that was inflicted on these priests devices Around the you know what was supposed to be about the same time. So there's that huge overlap there The caller talked about asclapius is one of the gospels. I believe that emphasizes of Jesus as a healer seems to be portraying Jesus as kind of a super asclapius That asclapius was a Greek god or I guess he was a god. Yeah And there's some other there's some other resonances with some other ancient pagan religions There was this Savior God in Egypt called Ocerapus People sometimes point out that our Christmas corresponds to Who is that Persian? It was this Persian there was several of these religions that were they're called late pagan religions, and they're all sort of they they all sort of used lightenism for their substance and An interesting thing. I just learned this recently very interesting book for learning about Jews is Israel Shahak SHAH aka Jewish history Jewish religion the weight of 3,000 years is published in the mid 90s and he says refers to an authority Star learning Moses had das who says that Talmudic Judaism is based on Plato and it was devised As he says as early as the Maccabean period, which is 142 to 63 BC so They devised they basically modeled their society as it exists today or as it exists for many centuries on This theory of a of an ideal society that Plato put together not Plato's Republic however But another long work by Plato that almost nobody reads called the laws All right, and it's basically it really outlined a totalitarian system where nobody's allowed to think for themselves Well, I think that you're drawing all these parallels to different things and I don't think that that's surprising or controversial I mean, you know, I forget the precise quote or where in the Bible it is But I mean I think at some point Jesus says you know The laws are already in your heart or something to that effect like you know these things intuitively and that's and and there's a commonality between Most religious doctrines to a certain extent, right? There's some Non-absolute recognition of property, you know, there's something called marriage, right? You know all of these you know all these traditions have something because what they're doing is explaining our nature, right? And and you know they differ in varying degrees But fundamentally what what they're all doing is trying to provide an explanation for what we're already doing don't you think? Well the point that I'm making because the the caller I Think even oversimplified you he's basically saying All this stuff came to us from the jute and that's not the case. Okay. I got you the Jews the Jews picked up a lot of things from From us really. I mean or from the ancient the ancient Mediterranean World anyway, you know, they picked up a lot of things enormous amount from Plato Christianity looks very similar to some ancient Late pagan religion several of them actually the only the only things lacking in those other religions is the connection to the Jews Um And this is an important point here. Um, the Jews in in the ancient Mediterranean were a They were a proselytizing religion They actually did seek convert But there's a huge barrier to converting to Judaism and that circumcision. Yeah, however They they would they had this class of People that they accepted as the associate called metuan taste which means God fearers right for Jehovah fearers and And you could I guess hang out with the Jews if you Worship their god without getting the circumcision. Although you probably had a lower status with them um A lot of women apparently did convert the Judaism because almost the vast majority of the DNA in Ashkenazi Jews is not of Levantine origin. It's the southern European origin um And I wanted to say this uh sort of a defense of Christianity in Europe Although I see a lot of problems with it. I I make this point to adam green Or have made this point to aminese. It doesn't seem to want to know uh Super sessionism Is something in Christianity that is very important that distinguishes it From groups that the Jews actually fostered like These metuan taste right Super sessionism Is the doctrine in Christianity? That says that the religion of the Jews is obsolete Now the metuan taste didn't believe that the religion of the Jews is obsolete And we see that there are forms of Christianity that the Jews Uh have supported and promoted called pre-millennialism uh That do not say that the religion of the Jews is obsolete or at least they don't push that uh, you know um In vatican 2 there was a tremendous pressure there was jewish lobbying To try to get vatican 2 to announce that uh to retract Super sessionism and the and the reason why an important reason for that is Super sessionism is the negation of the of the covenant that that gives uh, the holy land to the Jews It with that super sessionism invalidates Zionism Right officially the catholic church is still super session Right, you know, but you you can't always tell that from the statements that some of the clergy and hierarchy make um Well, that's the thing right so I mean, you know, look I think that you know to the broader conglomeration of ideas here say you know cultures come into contact with one another and And traditions rub off. Okay, and that's a totally natural phenomenon in the spread of ideas Um, I I think that Your I agree with your assessment that the guy over simplifies matters And I think that that's a requisite component of positing the theory that he posits right that like You know when you come with something and you say that you know, something is all one thing there that's almost never the case um, and you know the um You know vatican 2 I read a book in prison titled god's banker or god's bankers Which is basically about the vatican central bank which a pretty fascinating read um And you know the the theory posited there is that the you know the the the Pope the guy who is pope at the time of vatican 2 is suspected to be a homosexual Right and so you can imagine why that guy would have some some calls to uh to Uh to subvert, you know some doctrines of the catholic church say and you know But we don't turn around and say that we don't turn around and say that you know All of everything since vatican 2 is a plot by homosexuals, right that that would not be particularly sensible and so You know, this is it was an element of something and nothing happens in politics or society without a convergence of diverse interest Right and so you know, that's kind of you know explains a lot. I'd say Well As I mentioned the Jews have gotten a lot of things actually from our people our people Actually do come up with some bad ideas from time to time. Yeah, I've witnessed a bit um And um Jews will notice some of these things and say hey we can use that All right, um Anti-racism was not originally a jewish idea Uh, you can find anti-racism in in um augustin of hippo All right, uh in his uh city of god Um, he was he was so anti-racist that he said it was impossible for people to live on the other side of the world Because that's too much division in humanity We all have to be the same tribe because uh, we're the tribe of jesus now, right that that that's this ancient idea uh of augustinian christianity Um, and this is an important point. Um, communism really did not come from the juke All right. I already mentioned that they copied a lot of stuff from play-toe But if you actually read the communist manifesto it refers to the fact that a communist movement already existed and There was not a jewish movement particularly uh, re-hard vogner the german composer was it he called himself a communist At that time, you know, so There you go. They took it over And made use of it for their own purpose and my opinion is that that what mark's laid out Was really an attempt to derail the communist movement because what he says is Um capitalism is going to self-destruct. You don't have to do anything That's the essential point of the communist manifesto Yeah, that's that's you want to derail a movement tell them to sit there and wait for it to manifest itself Uh, so that's that's an interesting way of putting it. You know, I think that I am not I am unfamiliar with the pre mark's history of communism that you refer to but I think it's plausible because You know, it it prays on certain impulses, right? It it prays on certain weaknesses and in instincts say And so it's it seems to me that yeah, like Mark's sort of like refined this if you will He articulated it and and created a more cohesive doctrine, but it was something that You know, it had to predate marks or it would never have caught on such as it did um It was weaponized whether whether it was weaponized against the communists themselves or whether it was like You know this this Jew is like, oh, this is catastrophically destructive. I must promote it I guess is a is a thing that Probably we could not figure out in the space of this phone call, but um, it's an interesting it's an interesting observation in a case um So I uh Go go ahead Well, I I'm just as I said, but my my opinion is that the idea was to derail it Um, and uh when what would happen with the Bolshevik revolution? I believe is actually there was originally in the spring of 1917 there was going to be there was this liberal revolution And uh the government was led by this half Jew named karenski and that liberal revolution had been supported by jakem ship you know jew jewish banker and um I Don't know that they supported the Bolshevik revolution, but what happened was that this liberal government that Had been established in the spring of 1917 was was About to be overthrown there was something called the corna lava fair russian army officer made a move to try to establish military Catership in my opinion was the balschavique revolution was plan b Because the didn't look like the liberal government was going I think jews in general tend to prefer a liberal government with a certain amount of chaos in society rather than a communist society because the If you look at what actually happened in the soviet union there was too much order and accountability for them And jews actually in the long run didn't do very well in the soviet union There was a big purge in the 1930s you may have heard about uh trotski and all his buddies Uh, you know either got executed or left, you know and it ended up being much less jewish And if you read also kevin mcdonald he talked about the fact that Stalin continued reducing the numbers of jews in the soviet government even after the second world war and he always countered it with public relations measures where he presented some award to a jew You know so that he wouldn't be called anti-Semitic. Oh, he can't call Stalin anti-Semitic look He just gave an award to a jew meanwhile. He's reducing the number of jews in the burek Well, that's you know, that's one of the interesting things that I learned about the soviet union was Reading about joseph stalin and and discussing him at some length with a fellow by the name of victor boot while we were in prison together um And uh, well, I shouldn't i'm not going to try to describe victor boots You know thoughts on the subject, but He uh, he told me a lot about joseph stalin and gave me a new appreciation for the man Which I thought was extremely unlikely when he started to try to do it I'm like, oh you're going to tell me how great joseph stalin is That's probably not going to go over very well And but we had a pretty interesting discussion about it and when I got out of prison I listened to an audiobook titled stalin's war And it gave some history that that reflects on what you're saying that basically, you know You think about people in the united states anyway tend to think of joseph stalin as you know two steps below hitler on the evil scale um and and you know there's Cause for disputing that whole category of idea But among them is like, you know, stalin emerges Basically as an opposition to trotsky, right? And so for all, you know people's problems with joseph stalin does anybody think that they'd have been better off with a Soviet union run by By trotsky and I think that the answer to that question is no And so like, you know that that was a pretty interesting phenomenon And he was and he was and his whole thing like when he's rising to power His whole thing is, you know, are you with me or are you with trotsky? You know and tried to kill him and all this shit So like you know and and and there was absolutely an anti-Semitic element to it that he's like You know, as you say he was removing joseph from power in the soviet union and so if you're trying to do that It's not surprising to me that a certain degree of brutality would be fucking required Right like you would have to just be like look we're not we're done with the fucking bullshit We're gonna get rid of these fucking people and people get hurt in the fucking process. So be it, right? Yeah, well, I I think that Hmm You know All I can tell you is that I you know, I when I took teaching courses, you know education courses I had actually con a communist instructor running the class and the textbook written by a communist department had Included some bull crap that was taught in the soviet union, you know From jewish theorists and it's stuff that didn't work And with stallen did was he got rid of all the jewish bull crap that didn't work You know before he was for each being chairman, right? and for one thing he modeled the soviet education system on the Prussian education system um And even hitler at all fitler had some admiration for stallen if if the table talk can be trusted at all He thought he thought stallen was remarkable Uh, and he would uh if he conquered the soviet union he would make stallen the say trap of it Yeah, yeah, they they they had some um submit some back and forth say um hitler and stallen And so that's an interesting uh, it's an interesting history. I can't recommend highly enough the book stallens war Uh, it was it was a great. Uh, I listened to the audiobook so I didn't read it But you know it's a great read great listen. I can't recommend it highly enough Hiding I it's uh, it's been a great call as it always is but I do have to move on and get some other things in before we're done here So I'll let you wrap up friend Well, that's it. Thanks for letting me talk. Thank you very much for the call my friend two one seven six eight eight one four three Three you like to be on the pogrom and more you told the less I have to so please do give us a call Uh, you won't hold standby. I gotta get to a couple of things before I before I get back to the phones Um, let's go first things first. Oh, I'm sorry I went to ask adding Uh, national socialist worldview has not been updated in a while Uh, having if you're if you're hearing me, maybe you go to the audency chat and inform them of where you're writing now I know he writes it. Um, uh, it's coda or like say committee on Uh, something about the holocaust Or the uh institute for historical review. I think he's written at I think he's mostly writing for other publications to answer um Uh, fascist law's question. I'm sorry. I didn't get to your question I told you that I'd ask him before I hung out, but it was just things went all over the place I'm very sorry about that. Um, but having you know, he's often in the audency chat So maybe uh, maybe he'll visit us before the end of the show and if not you can ask him another time Two one seven six eight eight one four three three you like to be on the pogrom Uh, you know, there was another thing that I put out in the email today Uh, we talked about jews a lot today Happens from time to time of the radical agenda, you know, it's not lost on me at all that many of you hearing the Uh, sad of my voice Yeah, sympathy for the people of palestine and no shortage of uh, legitimate grievances about their jewish neighbors It's neither lost on me that the governor of the united states tends to be operated by people who are either ideologically devoted to or otherwise Being blackmailed and extorted by the government of israel So it is odd indeed that christopher ray would go before congress And state that pro-hamas rioters were not being investigated from the by the epi This from the man who told congress just before the epi broke my door down that white supremacy was america's number one terror threat at that And you know contrary to the neo-nazi boogie man hiding under the bed of every democrat There's actually some substantial evidence that islamic fanatics Have a well-earned reputation for blowing up buildings and murdering the innocent while screaming a lahuat bar on their way to meet the first of Many non-goat vaginas and paradise So even if you think the jews deserve to be slaughtered it's hard not to define hamas as a terrorist group They are a clandestine non-state actor operating across international borders in the business of killing non-military personnel for political purposes It's fairly straightforward So when left wing fanatics gather in the streets and call for the eradication of a government from the river to the sea It boggles the mind to think that the epi simply considers this the very essence of our constitution While conjuring the most outrageous of schemes to humiliate Murder and imprison american citizens with no operational plans for violence and no interest outside of their own country It would not be the first time ray had lied of course without what he was doing that might be the most plausible explanation Another is that the jewish state appreciates these demonstrations as a means by which to keep the news covered sympathetic to their ethnic cleansing campaign To stop the riots would be to remind americans that israel's problems are not theirs and this would be the end of the jewish state 217 688 1 4 3 3 you like to be on the pogrom and amoia told the less i have to so please do give us a call call or you are on the radical agenda which you're a Yeah, that's you pal Uh-oh You've been on hold for a long time. I'd hate to hang up on you pal that would be really i'd feel bad if i had to do that But i might just have to do it if you don't say something real soon Man That's something Well friend Better luck next time buddy 217 688 1 4 3 3 you like to be on the pogrom and amoia told the less i have to so please do give us a call call or you're on the radical agenda What you're doing? Um, hey, I had I wanted to talk about covid actually what I would call the covid scam Demick, but um, I feel compelled to comment on something you said at the beginning of the show, okay Um, I don't know if there's time to get to both topics. Well, why are you trying to make it nice? All right, I wanted to talk about Drugs marijuana all that stuff Um, yeah, I would certainly agree anything that in excess can be abused and can be bad Including marijuana But um, you know the difference between a leftist And a libertarian is that of personal responsibility? So leftist, you know, they want drugs to be legal because they want to create a screwed up society of people who have to run to the government for help and um, you know alcoholism ran rampant in the uh, soviet union now I I think actually other drugs were were illegal there but Alcohol can be just as actually just as dangerous if not more dangerous than uh, than uh, marijuana can But um, you know the war on drugs is totally unconstitutional So I think that if government's going to exist that it should strictly adhere to the us constitution And there's no constitutional basis for the war on drugs and There really wasn't a big drug problem in this country until after the war on drug started and the creation of the welfare state and um It is kind of a compromised position Um, I would support drug testing for welfare recipients that I don't think the welfare program should exist either But uh being that they do exist Then um, you know, perhaps I think one could make an argument that if you know if you want to get on welfare You got to test clean for drugs but um, you know, um It's all it's all probably up to personal responsibility and you know if there's no welfare state Then people are going to be responsible for their own lives And uh, if you do drugs You're going to screw yourself up and it's going to have consequences You're going to you know have uh, you know, you could die you could have a bad life You could lose money and uh, the market will punish you Well, you know, I I think that there's there's Yeah, there's some merit to that theory. There's no doubt about that, you know, um I I we've talked about this subject before so I don't want to spend a whole hell of a lot of time on it, buddy But like, you know, there's a progression that is predictable here, which is you know People go and they do something that's debilitating and then they require subsidy and if they are you know If they exist in large enough numbers, they'll vote for it and they'll get it. I mean that's Democracy in a nutshell, right? And so you know a responsible government Um has an interest in promoting productive healthy behaviors among its citizens and discouraging those behaviors that lead to the outcome I just described And so we've discussed this before I know that you know, you have a different take on it and whatnot You know the the problem that I have with the libertarian theory is that it's just it's at odds with with how things Turn out right, you know, you can say that there should be some some impermeable impenetrable universal law And you can have that opinion all day long but as soon as you know a bunch of people get together and in greater numbers than you or with superior force They'll just go ahead and impose that upon you and the libertarians with their largely hyper individualistic, you know Tendencies, you know find themselves, you know in practice incapable of resisting that which is you know Which is the whole story of the history of the movement that you know, it's not You know in practice. It just doesn't the theory is great. The theory is perfect. The theory is 100 perfect I'll give you I'll give you the perfect theory It's just that you know, it's at odds with You know their ideas don't correspond to reality You can you can make this very rational argument for how things ought to be and then the fact that they in fact are not so You know it sort of tends to tank the whole thing is my take on it now We cannot we cannot spend the last hour of the show discussing the merits of libertarianism So, you know, I'll invite you to say something quick about that move on to the covid thing or something Okay, what is the last thing I was going to say about that is um, it also leaves the corruption of of law enforcement And uh, who've been caught, you know dealing drugs and things about nature using it to confiscate property And uh politicians involved in that it's led to widespread corruption with the money And then I think it also ties with the immigration issue because I think some of the people Righting across the border part of their motive for that is to sell drugs, which are profitable because of the black market But anyway, I I'd like them. I'll move on to covid. Yeah, um, so when you were when you were in prison Um, you were in prison during the whole covid hysteria. Yeah, um, number one Um, did you I mean what were your thoughts on it? I mean just my thoughts on it I I thought from day one the whole thing was a scam I thought from day one. I never bought into it. I thought it was a excuse for a A power grab and a money grab and part of the uh depopulation agenda But uh, anyway, what did you think about it in prison and did the covid vaccine get pushed on you in prison Uh, did you take it? What did you do? What happened with the other prisoners where you forced to wear masks, etc Yeah, I can tell you about that. So You know when when the virus, you know, I get I get arrested in january of 2020 and you know two months later Not even you know the whole world falls apart because without the radical agenda. How could man can survive, right? And so uh covid wasn't correct consequence of the radical agenda. Not erring. It's obvious but jokes aside from um the uh, you know You know what you said and I think that I think you probably upon reflection would understand that you've made something of an oversay The idea that it was a total scam is not is not I don't think accurate because You know there was a virus like the virus spread very rapidly and people were legitimately scared about it And you know I was I was but I I was able to discern just uh from the early news coverage You know when you have every news outlet in the country screaming with Competing hysteria about anything Something very wrong is happening in my view. Okay, it it it takes on a character that's clearly It's a it's a it's propaganda And so like you know you do have to ask the question like why are they doing this? They're taking advantage of this scenario that has emerged to accomplish goals Is what my my first observations just of the news coverage were I remarked early on before they locked the jail down That that if I were if I were in if I were out in the media business at that time I would have just made a news station that didn't talk about COVID and I would be the most popular channel in the country if I had done that because People are like what the hell else is going on in the world? You're talking about covid all day shut the fuck up already, you know Um, it was it was so conspicuous that you had to understand that there were political forces at work say um And then what what my experience of it was after that was you know Then they locked the jail down. Okay, and when they locked the jail down I mean, you know, I had a really rough bid as a consequence of that You know, you're not usually locked in your cell all day Like some people have this image of being incarcerated that you're just locked in a cage and bored and have nothing to do That's not what jail is it's not what prison is certainly You know, there's a lot of activity, right? They have to give you things to do or all fucking hell will break loose These people will murder one another if you don't distract them Well, that's exactly what ended up happening with covid They did a 23 hour a day fucking lockdown where you're locked in your cell all day And you get to come out for one hour a day to shower and make your phone calls And and where I was for the most part, it's too men to a cells You're locked and you're fucking you're locked in your cell with your cellmate your cellmates and asshole It's just a fucking dangerous situation could emerge And so you know and and they didn't really they didn't really try to enforce masks on us that much They they sort of like, you know, they got these directives But the people who were in charge of the correctional facility sort of understood that you know, that was never going to work, right? I remarked on um the the piece I published titled beauty revisited. I'm sorry not beauty revisit This was in um of some consequence on surreal politics I said, you know, I remarked that the When I was in jail that the people outside the walls had it worse than us and then later I came to realize that might not be such a funny joke After all because that was literally what happened that like I'm watching all this like crazy stuff with the masking and stuff And in and in jail in prison Like they would not try to make you wear your your mask, right? They would not they would make the mask mandates were more strictly imposed Outside of jail in prison than they were inside of jail in prison And so like that's literally what my experience of it was that I'm in i'm in jail in prison and not facing the same The the same terrifying in positions that that the people outside were for the vaccine when the vaccine first came out They um, they started offering it to people and then they started trying to incentivize it And this was They they kept on Coming up with new ways to try to get you to do it They didn't try to force you but you know, some of the methods were were somewhat coercive like Um, you know if you if you took your vaccine then you would get moved to a housing area with other people who had been vaccinated If you took your vaccine then when you went to court or whatever you wouldn't have to sit in Quarantine for two weeks, you know, you would have the you know every time you went outside of the facility You had to sit in a two-week quarantine and quarantine Is more restrictive than your regular housing area. So there was you know a lot of there's a lot of incentive to avoid that um, and so like, you know, there there were Those were some of the incentive when I got to the prison where I got the federal prison. They were sending Funny I laughed at it when I saw it They were like, okay. Well, you know the housing unit with the most Uh with the most vaccinated people will get pizza was one of the things they did So what you're actually doing there is you're actually trying to get inmates to coerce one another You know to get the vaccine like you're actually creating an incentive for violence by doing this that like, oh We're trying to get this shit. They go. Why don't you give us some get your fucking vaccine? You know and thankfully they didn't this was not You know the prisoners didn't buy that horse shit They were like get the what if you're offering me pizza to take it you're trying to harm me. It was kind of the attitude, you know Um And so they they tried a lot of different ways to encourage it You know some of those things bordered on coercive, but it was not like take this or else You know it was here's the benefits that you'll get if you don't and you've already been You've already been suffering the consequences of of all these things You're just you're just getting away out of it through this you see so it wasn't like do this or else It was we're making all these impositions and the way to get out of them then is to take the vaccine you see Uh, yeah, I'm actually kind of surprised they didn't force you to take it They would have had they would have been bogged down in ceaseless litigation if they did, you know Um And even like so you never took it. Oh, I never didn't take it. No, I got the virus twice I got sick. I got sick and I got sick and pretrial detention and I got sick at the federal prison Um, and so like, you know and like they were doing like it was crazy like when it first started getting crazy Like they were just springing people left and right like I thought I might get out of jail on bail because of the covid thing They were letting fucking illegal immigrants like everybody who's getting out of jail They're like, oh because of covid everybody's life is in danger And if you could articulate any sort of health concern you're you're going home with a bracelet. Okay Um, I didn't have any such health concern to to articulate sadly But you know, they were letting out, you know, you know, illegal immigrants charged with violent crons were getting out with an ankle bracelet It was sick and so did you think about making something up just so you could get out? I did and like I I went so far as to be like, whoa, you know, I I've gotten fucking fat while i'm here like, you know I'm technically obese like let me out on the count of that, you know, they you know, it was not it did not go over Uh, it did not go over well at all, you know, and and so like but you know the vaccine I hadn't I still have a nuanced opinion on it You know when I was very concerned that my parents were gonna die dude Like I thought that my you know, my parents You know like most white people my parents are older than me and I am not a young man And so like, you know And they have they have they've had health problems over the years and i'm looking at this fucking virus And you know the news coverage is telling me that you know people older people with You know certain different types of conditions some of which applied to my parents You know, we're at greater risk of death and i'm like I might spend the next 30 fucking years in prison And I don't want my I don't want to I don't want my mother to die before I can kiss her without a sheet of glass between us And so like my my initial view of the vaccine was well I'm not taking that fucking democrat poison, but yeah My mother and my father who I love and I care for and I want to survive They should go fucking take it because The the risk of the vaccine in my view at the time was like, you know It's more of a long-term risk whereas my mom could go catch a fucking cold and die tomorrow You know and so I was like yeah go take that thing But once they started in with the boosters and all this fucking nonsense, I'm like no and and because Not because I even doubted the original vaccine but because the virus mutated so rapidly that you were um The virus mutated so rapidly that by the time the vaccine came around you were actually Vaccinating against the virus that no longer existed. Okay, so you know, oh macronald is fucking nonsense You know that you can't develop the vaccine before it before it mutates enough that you're you're vaccinating against something else And so it became ineffective and now you're just fucking taking so that it be it ended up becoming like a Loyalty oath to the democrat party you're just demonstrating, you know, it's it's like i'm gonna go walk across broken glass The same kind of ritual where you're like i'm gonna go do this dangerous thing and harm myself because I want to demonstrate my loyalty to my extremist organization And that's what the that's what the vaccine ultimately became so I told my parents like Yeah, go take the vaccine and then I was like no don't get a booster or you out of your fucking mind They're still giving you the fucking the vaccine that's supposed to you know mitigate the damage of the virus for fucking strains ago Um, yeah, well, you know, um, you know kind of funny that you mentioned this because um I had the exact opposite experience With with my parents and um, you know, frankly, I I think you made a mistake telling your parents to to take the vaccine I was actually telling my parents to not take the vaccine I was trying to red pill them and I was telling them about bill gates depopulation agenda I was just I was telling them about the statistics with covid and how it was being manipulated And how hospitals were being paid federal grant money To report any death of anyone that had a had a corona virus in their system Which is anybody that's ever had a common cold. Yeah, I understand if you if you tested positive If you showed up in a morgue would a bullet in your head and you had covid antibodies from a prior infection They would record you as a covid related death and the reason that they did that In my view Was to blame more deaths on donald trump. It was a completely political operation I don't think that that was fundamentally like a deep population agenda to get everybody to take the vaccine I think that's crackpot shit like what they wanted Let me finish my fucking sentence. Okay What what they were doing it was plain to see that once the once the virus happened Okay Once the virus happened All of the forces in the country that wanted to destroy donald trump were like this is fucking perfect Okay You know bill marred said pretty early on in the trump presidency You know what we need we need a recession because when there's a recession the president doesn't get reelected Right So like that was straight forwardly the plan. That's why the democrats were like Oh, we're gonna fucking shut down california in new york Okay, like they you know, they were willing to fucking impose upon their populations You know the largest economies in the country In order to create a Fucking recession in order to take donald trump out of office They took it that fucking seriously And like I think that that was probably that the explanation you could explain More rationally so much of the covid hysteria By that by that motive than you can buy some of the other things that i've i've heard people say You know, I don't think that there's any particular You know the you know the people who govern us are not presently particularly concerned with our fucking well-being right But they're not they don't they they can't conceivably benefit from our from our total extermination or whatever the idea that the government is out to You know eradicate the population is is preposterous. They want to change the demographics But you know they and and there's reasons that they want to do that that are that are articulable But probably beyond the scope of what we're going to get to tonight that they You know what they what they did they can't benefit from taxing dead people Right they need human beings to go to work and do things so that they can fucking you know It's their parasite. They need their sustenance So like you know these this idea that the government's trying to feed us all fucking poison to kill us. I think it's is kind of crazy Well, let me tell you what happened. Okay, so my parents were not taking the vaccine at first and then um, I I was out of communication with them for several weeks and um, my mother has this friend who's a stupid democrat and She went out her friend got the vaccine And then you know kind of pushed them to do it. So my mother went out and got it She got the first shot. She didn't have any side effects and then she dragged my father out to get it Well, my father had side effects. He was hospitalized for five days after that and then about six months later he had a stroke And was the stroke connected to the vaccine or not? You know, I don't know for sure But I suspected You know, I I think it probably was because I was you know a lot of people called it the clock shot And uh, it was just it was just very mysterious. He didn't didn't have any problem with that before and then six months later. He has a stroke Um, my father did not go back and take the second vaccine Now a friend of mine who who I thought would have been red-pilled enough to not take it Um, he applied for a job. He was out of work And the place he was applying for a job They said they would only hire him if he took the vaccine now it later turned out that they had a religious Exemption, but he didn't know about this at the time. Anyway, he went out. He's this guy Uh, it was maybe like 39 40 Uh, they 41 something like that. He was healthy healthy guy. You know, healthy as a horse Anyway, he went out got the first shot. He said he was sore for like a week And ever since then he's had been having vision problems Um to this day. So he went and got the shot. I think it was uh late 2021 And he's been having any had no vision problems before this Well, if you took the shot late 2021 you fucking deserve what you get in my view like Like I said My view of the original vaccine was okay. There's a fucking panic like everything that was done at the beginning of the thing I can pardon. Okay, you know 60 days to slow the spread nonsense like this. Okay, fine, right What you know, I think it's a perfectly reasonable public health policy to be like There's a rapidly spreading virus. We don't understand it. It might have been a chinese bio weapon Everybody stopped fucking moving while we figure this out You you create the vaccine, you know, and like I know there's people who have broader skepticism of vaccines and I I think a lot of that stuff is fucking crazy You brought up the bill gates thing. I know that bill gates said we're gonna reduce world population through vaccines or something You know, it's that's ominous to say the least of it, but You know vaccination is a is a plausible theory, right? You know when you are exposed to Some portion of a virus and your body creates the antibodies to deal with it You know, you can you know, anybody was ever had fucking chickenpox or went to a chickenpox party when they were a kid understands this So like, you know, you know vaccination is not categorically sinister and when people talk about it that way I I end up tuning out because I realize that they're fundamentally unserious like Vaccination is real and whether every vaccination that we fucking impose upon our population today is a good idea is a different topic of discussion And if you just say vaccination is a sinister plot then you're you're excluded from serious conversations But like, you know, the the mRNA vaccines is like, okay We're going to have your body produce this spike protein your your protein your body's going to attack it And then it's going to realize that this is dangerous and get rid of the virus That's it. That's a perfectly plausible theory that a well-intentioned person can come up with and pursue And mmorne was not you know, they didn't come up with it You know in this context it was it was a technology that had been You know, it had been worked on for some period of time when the guys who came up with the concept of it Became one of the most outspoken critics of the covid vaccine, you know, I forget his name off the top my head But I'm sure you've seen him now. You know who I'm talking about I'm confident and so like You know The when the when the virus comes out when the virus is out there and it's like people are fucking dying left and right because that really did happen Buddy like a lot of people fucking died from covid and I got I fucking I was I was sick as fuck when I got covid dude I was I became I became skeptical of how severe the virus was I saw a lot of people get it in jail You know, and I didn't see anybody die from it in the federal prison system You know there were dozens of people fucking died and like and and what they were doing in a lot of cases You know, they're they're over reporting deaths in some places and the uh and they were uh Sorry, I was distracted by uh edgy chris is my It what do you call sorry? Sorry? Sorry? I was distracted by money because I'm I'm uh, I'm a Jew. I'm kidding. Uh, so They were getting them out of the prison sending them to the hospital and then Allowing them to die in the hospital so that they didn't die in the federal prison system was one of the things that was going on in federal prison And this was conspicuous everybody understood it So like, you know It's perfectly reasonable for me to be concerned that my parents are gonna fucking get killed from this thing because if I'm a fucking If I'm a if I'm a if I'm a fucking bodybuilder You know who's reasonably healthy who's like fucking combat ready and I'm laid up in fucking bed from this fucking thing my my parents or you know Just we'll just say upwards of 50 years old And and who have had health problems over the course of their life. They're going to suffer more from that than I am And so, you know, if if millions of people take this shot and they're not fucking dead within weeks of taking it then like that's That's not a crazy thing to think that you know that this can help them now again Once they once the once they're vaccinating Once it becomes obvious that they're vaccinating against a virus that no longer exists that that spike protein mutates too rapidly for the mr And a process to keep up with Well now there's no good reason to do that and and that's you know, that's my that's my take on We're gonna I got people on hold in this 10 minutes left. So let's try to wrap it up. Go ahead All right. Well, maybe I'll have to call back and to continue this discussion you left a lot to unpack there But I just want to say just my own anecdotal evidence Um, I came in contact during with large numbers of people Um during the whole thing Um, I didn't wear a mask Unless I was someplace where I was forced to like an airport and even then I I kind of bent the rules as much as I could Um, I didn't wash my hands anymore than normal Uh, I never took the vaccines and guess what? I didn't get sick Um, I I did get sick very briefly in the summer of 2021 But it was after eating at a chinese restaurant and I was sick for maybe four days and I I think it was probably food poisoning But uh, I you know and a bunch of my associates Were in the same situation and I don't know anybody that got sick and I don't know I don't even know if anybody to die. I have asked like everybody I know If they know anybody who died from covid and never got any definitive answers Uh, I do know one guy who died, but he died of a heart attack and he was an older died. He was overweight and he spoke cigarettes. So, uh, um, I think it was just overhiped Flu and pneumonia and if you look at statistics during the whole covid so-called crisis Uh, flu deaths were down and pneumonia deaths were way down during that whole crisis And that's uh, that's very I think they dropped by like 90 percent or something And I think it's just that all they did was they took the flu and pneumonia and every year there's people who die of that And they just hyped it up, you know, and that you know, donald trump He was involved in pushing the vaccine and he also signed that six trillion dollar Um stimulus package which uh, you know 98 percent of that money went to special interest groups and you know that but added to the inflation that we're feeling You know right now and that thing zoomed through congress I think it was just like maybe you know tom massy and rann paul were probably like Maybe like the only people that didn't vote for it might a bit a few others but uh Most of congress voted for it and it was just it was just garbage and then trump was you know Pushing the vaccine and everything like if I configured out that it was a bunch of bs And you know, what's wrong with him? All right, buddy, I do call back in the talk later Yeah, I'll tell you what i'm gonna do too like i'm gonna respond to some of the things that you've said without you on the line Which I don't usually like to do I don't usually think it's reputable for radio host to do that But I got to respond to it. I'll be happy to talk to you about another time You know, look the any time that you have a big spending bill in congress. There's gonna be interest groups involved That's politics. It's inevitable Okay, the idea that donald trump would be able to come in there and change that as fucking preposterous And so like you're gonna spend a bunch of money fun inflation Well, here's the thing and here donald trump is fucking smarter than mitch mcconnell in this regard. Okay You you're going to spend a bunch of money right before the fucking election You're gonna go and mail fucking checks with your god damn signature on them to the people You ever you know, if you know anything about the fucking democrat party and the god damn promises that they make they understand the concept of buying votes It's not crazy for the republicans to figure that out at some point And so you go and you you you create this inflationary Economic policy right before the election. So one of two things is gonna happen either the inflationary monetary policy is going to help You get reelected and you'll have this problem on your hands or the in Or the inflationary monetary policy will not help you get elected and you'll be handing your opponent a fucking disaster Which is actually a great fucking idea That's one of the problems with democracy outlined by her Hans Herman Hoppe In democracy the god that failed, but you know, he argues essentially that kingdoms were more efficient governments in part because You know the king owned the capital stock of the kingdom and he passed it on to his heirs And therefore it was not in his long-term best interest to diminish the future of the country That is completely fucking turned upside down by democracy where like the best thing that you can do politically is hand your political opponent a fucking disaster You get all that you can out of it during your term So also one of the problems with term limits that nobody ever brings up people like oh term limits are gonna be so great Once these people aren't in government forever You know, then they'll start making wise decisions. Oh, yeah Oh, so you think that people having no long-term investment in a thing generally causes them to treat it better That's an interesting fucking theory. Where'd you come up with that fucking nonsense? So, you know, I think that there's calls to be skeptical about these things and the vaccine look You know, donald trump comes in there and it's like I you know, he's been there for a while He's got the whole world is arrayed against him and now he's got what I what I believe is a chinese fucking bio weapon on his hands And it's destroying the fucking country. Well, what do we have to do to do this? How do we fix this fucking problem is what donald trump does he goes and he asks smart people Hey, how do I solve this fucking problem? And so guys who are in the business of making medicine are like hey, you know, give us a whole shitload of money And we'll go make some medicine that'll keep people from getting sick and if you're donald trump That's the fucking greatest thing that you could ever hope to hear how much money do you want because I've got a printing press I can print fucking dollars all day If you think that you would not do that in that position, you're out of your fucking mind Oh, you know, i'm gonna ask an expert and the expert tells me that if you give me this much money I can keep people from dying of this disease and you're like well, you know What you know, if I print this dollars, then you know, you know, fucking the cost of beef's gonna go up You're not going to do that. That's not that's not what a reasonable person in his position would do so like You know, that's not unreasonable in the slightest the idea that donald trump is like conspiring to fucking feed people poison is preposterous So, you know, that's my thoughts on it. I'll happily talk to you about it other time I genuinely Generally, I think it's disreputable for radio host to do something like that after hanging up on a caller But I just I have to wrap it up. I got people on hold holler. You're on a radical agenda. What's your agenda? Hey, chris Did you hear about this uh open letter from hans herman, happa disownian bloodthirsty joo walter block No, I haven't heard about that at all Yeah, you can read the letter online or you can go on to youtube and just type an open letter to walter e block hans herman happa and essentially, you know, this uh walter block tries to present a argument saying that Jews have some kind of historic right to the palestinian lands and all this and that and using rock bardian principles and uh, yeah, he just gets shredded Okay, um, well, this is very interesting Um, well, this is what I just pulled up is not the letter apparently. Oh, there we go I was looking at a sub stack where somebody is writing about it. So this is um Interesting, uh, I will the youtube video. I will I will read this. Oh, this is kind of long I'm fucking i'm gonna read this before I close the show out. Thank you for bringing this to my attention What what do you have to say about this and then i'll read it before I close out Oh, it's just I believe it's just the show's how subversive this individual is. I mean walter block he wrote a book defending the defendable. He's defending pips in there defending swam boards, you know, I mean It's just so typical You know I I read defending the undefendable. I don't think that it was such an abomination as a lot of people on the right making out to be I mean it was an economics tax You know he's talking about these you know what what walther block says in defending the undefendable is the these are Not the things that you're making them out to be and as a matter of fact the case that he makes in that book is actually pretty compelling He's not saying that these things are virtuous. He's not making moral arguments about them What he's saying is like you say that the slum lord you say that the speculators my favorite example, okay The speculator people hate the speculator because he buys things when they are cheap driving up the cost of those things And then when those things become scarce he has stockpiles of them which he charges more for at that time, okay and And people look upon him as the as a fucking monster because he's selling water to thirsty people at you know high prices Well, if those thirsty people want that fucking water They better be happy to pay double for it because in the absence of that option they don't have water And that's actually an eminently reasonable thing for an economist to say And so like, you know, you can maybe take greater issue as some of the other things you mentioned pimps and you know I don't remember pimps, but I remember slum lords and you know drug dealers and things like this You know, I think that that that book does not get its Just due from a lot of people on the right, but Um, I haven't read this letter from hobo. I take han's hoppe very fucking seriously And I think that he's a very smart guy and so I uh, I'll be interested to know more about it Um But any last thought you have on the letter I got to let you go. It's 11 30 now. I do want to wrap the show up Yeah, Walter block, you know, he uh He went from defending the indefensible to pretty much Given arguments to Benjamin Netanyahu as to why Those lands belong to the jews and not the palestinian, you know, I mean he just gets shredded in this article He's his arguments are interesting, but in this case he won't wait too far Okay, well, that's an interesting, you know, I I don't doubt that uh, I don't doubt that han's herman. Hapa has given a brand new orifice To mr. Block and I'm gonna enjoy reading that on the air. So thank you very much for bringing it to my attention But he's he's straight up disowned him. Well, thank you very much my friend I you brought the I'm very glad to have this before the end of the production today and uh, you make sure call me Call me again whenever you have something this hot. Okay, pal Yes, sir. Take care. Thank you very much. Have yourself a good night. And so why don't we uh, real quick I'll just I have this one last blurb from the from the email today that I'll read aloud to you um I uh, there was an update on the texas board about all we've been talking about it looks like there might yet be hope of a legal remedy To avoid a civil law down there. It was lost on me at the time Um, but a post it news we contained some more detailed legal analysis than I had previously consumed It turns out the supreme court's five four decision last month Authorizing the federal government to continue dismantling border barriers erected by the texas state government Was not a decision on the merits of the case. It was only in turning an injunction Issued by the fifth circuit court of appeals which had enjoined the federal government From continuing to take down those border barriers while the while the broader litigation worked its way through the courts So it always remained entirely possible perhaps even likely that the court would ultimately come down on the side of texas But the court had taken the position that to enjoin the federal government from acting while the litigation played out was an Overstep by the lower court That is of course still quite outrageous if there's any likelihood of victory for texas The federal government suffers no harm by seeing immigration laws in force by whoever may be doing it Only the narrow interests of nefarious types who facilitate this invasion are diminished by that enforcement But it is much easier for the likes of john roberts and amy coedy barret to justify that you know I'm sorry then to say that texas has no right to protect itself from invasion Uh, if either of them switch their vote when it comes time to judge the merits of the broader dispute Texas wins and even progressive bloggers are concluding or speculating in a case that this is likely to be what happened so I was yeah, I've thought that any minute now there was people we're gonna be fucking shots fired down that If that does not appear to be the case and that's very good news. We don't get a whole lot of good news these days. So you know Be happy Is you know, it's good when we find out there's some good things happening in the Now as for this uh this letter from han's hapa. Well, I should read some super chats first um Gladden 19 very sorry for not getting these sooner gladden 19 can't well Did you see that a Ukrainian june won miss japan take a look at what speech she gave about diversity when she won? um I am absolutely japanese Ukrainian board model sparks debate by winning miss japan pageant. Well, oh god I'll i gotta show you this that's fucking funny Uh, let's zoom in on that nose a bit. Uh-huh. So this is the uh, this is the japanese woman Who's miss japan now and she's absolutely japanese and you could tell by the nose that she's japanese She very look very japanese with that with that fucking schnauze of hers is definitely you know, it's a very japanese feature hahahahaha And not really i'm kidding that's that's for those of you who are listening to the podcast and don't see the video That's a joke. That's a gag as we call it in the industry Oh, man You know, that's that's really upsetting too because you know the japanese, you know, they've had some better fucking sense about these things than than other people say I'm not gonna read the whole piece, but we get the gist of it. Thank you very much glenn 1433 from libertary out based in unvast chris gole. Yes indeed, you know, uh, tony soprano 2777 good show chris Well, thank you very much my friend um the uh All right, so let's wrap it up with this han's hop of thing This is uh, we're gonna go a little over tonight because this is not particularly brief, but we'll get through it I'm gonna i'm gonna hang up the phones though. So i'm not burning up the thing. I appreciate you guys who called in tonight I look great. I I miss when you know, I've really fucking missed when we were on youtube and just like we had fucking calls nonstop That was you know, I miss those fucking days when like You know, I'd be like what your call sucks Fuck you be better call back and and hang up on people and go on to the next one of the phones We're just packing the whole time. We've got to get back to that state, but thanks great calls tonight So han's hop over at mises.org has this to say it's an open letter to walta e block date in february 1st 2024 and he says break it up with a person you have known for more than 30 years with whom you have participated in countless Conferences and co-authored a couple of articles even if only in somewhat distant past Is nothing done lightly? It is even harder if one shares with this person A common standing as a public intellectual and both our names are mentioned frequently in one breath Is prominent students of the same teacher marie and wrath bar As leading intellectual lights of the modern libertarian movement founded by wrath bar But then in this position it becomes near imperative to always stay on guard and take notice of a person closely Associated with your own name goes astray and falls into serious error And you may be compelled to publicly distance and disassociate yourself from this person in order to protect your own personal and intellectual reputation Along with wrath bars and that of the entire libertarian intellectual edifice Such is the case with walta block Block to his credit has published countless articles that push that pass muster by libertarian standards and there are likely many more to come He is effusively praised Rothbard over and over again And he likes to refer to himself as the sweet and kind waltter However, he has also published materials that clearly disqualify him as a libertarian and Rothbardian and that reveal him instead is an Unhinged collectivist taken in by genocidal impulses very much like rand and the randians recently taken to task by fernando jioka rather than a kind and sweet person I will offer three exhibits to substantiate this claim Exhibit one blocks writings together with allen futurmen and raffy favor on the classical liberal respectively libertarian case for israel endorsed surprise surprise by none of them benjamin yetin yahoo The cornerstone of libertarian doctrine is the idea and institution of private property Property whether in land or anything else is lawfully and justly acquired Either by means of original appropriation of previously unowned resources also known as homesteading or else by means of voluntary Transfer from a prior to some later owner All property is always and invariably the property of some specific identifiable individuals and all property transfers and exchanges take place between specified individuals and concerned specified identifiable objects In reverse all claims to property by a person who had neither homesteaded or previously produced such property Nor acquired it through voluntary transfer from some previous owner are unlawful and unjust It's a very good articulation of the libertarian theory of property by the way Which you might come to expect if you know anything about han's hoppe For the potential problem of restitution or compensation from this implies I'm sorry for the potential problem of restitution or compensation this implies In every case of conflicting property claims brought to trial for judgment The presumption is always in favor of the current possessor of the resource under construction And the burden of approve to the contrary is always on the opponent of the current state of affairs and current possessions The opponent must demonstrate that he contrary to prima fascia evidence has a better claim because He has an older title to some specified piece of property than its current owner and whose ownership is hence unlawful If and only if an opponent can successfully demonstrate this must the questionable possession be restored as property to him On the other hand if the opponent fails to make this case uh If the i'm sorry on the other hand if the opponent fails to make this case matters stay the way they are It is not in question that a considerable number of cases exist where lawful compensation or restitution is owed where person a can Demonstrate that he is the lawful owner of some specified piece of property currently in possession and wrongfully claimed as his own by person b It is also not in question that there exists some cases in which a current property owner can trace back the title to some of his present holdings for many generations But it should also be obvious that for most people in most present holdings and he's such backtracking from present to past ends up lost in history very quickly And in any case gets increasingly more difficult and murky with time Leaving little if any room for any present day reparation demands for ancient crimes How about 2000 year old crimes is there anyone is there anyone living person to be found today who can claim lawful ownership of some specific piece of property land or jewelry That is and has been for a couple of thousand years in the possession of others By demonstrating his own prior claim to these possessions through proof of an uninterrupted chain of property title transfers going from him And today all the way back to some specific ancestor living in biblical times and unlawfully victimized at that time This is not inconceivable of course, but I very much doubt that any such case can be found. I would want to see it before I believe it And yet block a towel in their attempt of presenting the liberal respectively libertarian case for israel Maintain that they can justify the claim of present day Jews to a homeland in Palestine based on their status as heirs of Jews living to millennia ago in the region then called judea Not surprisingly however except for the single end in itself highly questionable case of kohanim Jews priestly descend I'm sorry Jews of priestly descent. I should say And their specific connection to the temple mount they do not provide a shred of evidence How in the world any one specific present day Jew through a time span of more than 2,000 years can be connected to any one Specific ancient Jew and be established as the legitimate heir of some specific piece of property stolen or otherwise taken from him 2,000 years ago The claim of present day Jews to a homeland in Palestine then Can only be made if you abandon the methodological individualism underlying the character underlying and characteristic of all libertarian thought the notion of individual personhood of private property private conduct and accomplishment Private crime and private guilt instead you must adopt some form of collectivism that allows for such notions as group or tribal property and property rights Collectively responsibility and collective responsibility and collective guilt This turn from an individualistic to a collectivistic Perspective is clearly on display in block-a-towel summary conclusion on page 537. Well, that's some lengthy discussion Quote Rothbard supports homesteading as the legitimate means of ownership the first homestooter gets the land not any subsequent one Libertarians deduce from this fact that stolen property must be returned to its original owners or their heirs This is the case for reparations. Well, the Romans stole the land from the Jews around two millennia ago The Jews never gave this land to the Arabs or anyone else according to libertarian theory It should be returned to the Jews end of quote. That's quoting from block there Uh says Hapa bingo, but the but homesteading is done by some specific Ben or Nate not by the Jews And likewise reparations for crimes committed against Ben or Nate are owed to some specific David or moshi As their heir not to the Jews and they concern specific pieces of property not all of Israel Unable to find any present day David or moshi that can be identified as Bens or Nate's heir to some specified piece of property However, all reparation claims directed against any current owner are without any base Another property theory is needed to still make the case for a jewish homeland and block and his co-authors offer such a theory Property rights and reparation claims can allegedly also be justified by genetic and cultural similarity Ancient Jews and present day Jews are genetically and culturally related And hence present day Jews are entitled to the property stolen from ancient Jews And the expulsion of hundreds of thousands of palestinian Arabs immediately before and in the aftermath of the founding of the state of Israel in 1948 Then is not a crime But simply the repossession of what legitimately belongs and has belonged for two millennia to the jews Yet this theory is not only absolute obviously incompatible with libertarianism. It is also just plain absurd Just consider jews lived for hundreds of years in egypt and when they finally reached their promised land This was by no means empty According to deuteronomy and joshua quite a bit of killing pillaging and raping had to be done before taking over that land Ancient jews were not just homesteaders They were also perpetrators and there had been plenty of ethnic mixing with other peoples of other tribes with Greeks and all sorts of people all around the mediterranean Long before the Romans arrived and took over and this genetic admixture later also with Arabs continued up to the present day Any Genetic linking of present day Jews to ancient jews then becomes an impossible task There are contemporary jews that show no genetic traces to ancient jews And there are plenty of Gentiles who do show such traces And in any case the genetic similarities to be found between the ancient and the present jews Will be one of countless variations and degrees How to decide then who of the contemporaries is entitled to what portion of the holy lamb? Interestingly, it appears that the closest genetic similarity between ancient jews could be found among those indigenous indigenous christian palestinians However, what if the fanciful new theory of property acquisition and inheritance Biogenic similarity were generalized to all tribes in ethnicities There are countless cases of expropriations and exposions of one group or tribe by another in human history Of victims of perpetrators involving non-Jews as well as latter day jews How about every group of present day descendants of some historical victim group demanding restitution of assets currently held by the members of Another group or tribe on account of the fact that such assets had been stolen for one's ethnic forebears Sometime way back in history whether by the group of present owners or any other group The result would be legal chaos in terminal bull strife conflict and war Is this collectivistic nonsense not enough to disqualify block as a libertarian If this collective sorry if this collectivistic nonsense is not enough to disqualify block as a libertarian The following exhibit demonstrating its monstrous consequences should remove even the slightest remaining doubt that he is anything but a libertarian A robardian or a sweet and nice person Exhibit two this is a recent article by block again co-authored with futurman Originally most prominently published although behind a paywall by one of the most Establishment papers the wall street journal what a surprise and subsequently easily Accessibly reprinted on block zone newsletter on october 12th of 2023 It is titled the moral duty to destroy hamaz Israel is entitled to do whatever it takes to a brute this evil depraved culture that resides next to it And as the title already indicates it is this screed of his then that wall That reveals block as an unhinged bloodthirsty monster. Wow strong language Rather than a libertarian committed to the non-aggression principle as the second complementary foundational pillar of the libertarian doctrine Subject here are the events of october 7, 2023. It's aftermath and consequences On that day members of the so-called hamaz running the gaza strip Attack mained killed and kidnapped a large number of israeli soldiers and citizens civilians I should say As is to be expected in any type of war both warring parties are presently widely presenting widely differing stories Concerning the actual events and numbers what has become clear so far is only that the number of casualties runs in the several hundreds to low 1000s and that a considerable portion of such casualties were actually the result of friendly fire per helicopter by the IDF What is a libertarian to make of this event? First he must recognize that both hamaz and the state of israel are gangs financed and funded not by voluntary membership contributions but by extortion taxation Confiscation and expropriation Hamaz does so in gaza with the people living on in gaza and the state of israel does it with the people it living in israel as well as the as well as the Palestinians living in the west bank gaza is a tiny poor and densely populated territory and hamaz is accordingly a small low budget gang with only some ragtag army and little and mostly low grade weaponry Israel is a much larger significantly more prosperous and less densely populated territory and the state of israel subsidized long-lastingly by and heavily by the world's mightiest and wealthiest of all gangs the united states of america Is a big and high budget gang with some large well-trained professional army equipped with the most sophisticated and destructive weaponry available including atomic bombs The older one the older one of these two fighting gangs is the state of israel itself Is the state of israel itself established only recently in 1948 by mostly european jus of zionis persuasion and by means of Intimidation terrorism war and conquest directed against the then present and for many centuries prior mostly arab residents of the region of palestine And it was also by means of intimidation terrorism war and conquest then that the explicitly jewish state of israel was Successfully expanded to its present size Hundreds of thousands of arabs were uprooted expropriated and expelled from their homes And turned into refugees as a result and large numbers of these victims or their direct heirs are still in possession of Valle title to land or to other properties now in the possession of the state of israel the land the the israel land authority and its jewish citizens At best only a meager 7% of present israeli territory Was regularly acquired or purchased by jews before 1948 and could thus be claimed as legitimate jewish property Hamas on the other hand is one of several arab resistance movements parties and gangs formed in reaction to the israeli jewish takeover and occupation of palestine Founded originally in 1987 and since 2006 in control of the gaza strip Which was and still is subject to a rigorous land air and sea blockade by israel and hence frequently referred to by knowledgeable observers as an open air concentration camp Hamas is committed to the reconquest of the lost territories including by means of violence and acts of terror such as on october 7th Explicitly directed not against the jews qua jews, but specifically against zionis It actually received funding also from israel in its beginnings in order to build it up as a counterweight to the growing influence of the larger The more moderate and better funded secular underground resistance group fatah and its p l o leadership in exile in kinesia As fatah and the p l o were put in charge of some parts of the west bank in gaza as part of the peace process that began in 1993 the more militant and islamic fundamentalist hamas is relative in trans at relative intransuze Became a useful tool for the increasingly influential extremist israeli factions Which sought to derail the peace process and succeeded in doing so by increasing their building of jewish settlements that split up the west bank Into non-contiguous open air prisons controlled by israel rendering a palestinian state essentially impossible There has been speculation as to the motive for the seemingly strange israeli decision of lending support hamas Quite plausible because events such as that of october 7th can and are indeed being used by israel as a dramatic proof and public demonstration of its long held contention that there can never be any two state solution to the israeli palestinian problem and israel for the sake of regional peace must still further expand and restore Be expanded and restored as the single state to its alleged original biblical size In any case then before this background how is a libertarian to react and evaluate the 10 7 events First off he would want to wish the pocks on the leadership of both gangs and on all gang leaders of foreign states that have lent and continue to lend support To either one of the two warring gangs with funds stolen from their own subject population As well he would acknowledge that the hamas attack on israel was no more totally unprovoked than the russian attack a little while ago on the ukraine The attack on israel was definitely provoked by the conduct of its own political leadership Much like the russian attack on the ukraine had been provoked by the leadership of ukraine And he would not fail to note also that in both cases that of israel as well as that of ukraine Their provocations had been encouraged back up and supported big time by the predominantly jewish neo-con gang leadership in charge of the united states government Apart from this there is a there is literally libertarian can do it set raise his voice in favor of peace talks negotiations and diplomacy The hamas leadership should be accused For having brought about through its terrorist actions the danger of some massive retaliation by a military Far superior and more powerful enemy gang The state of israel And the israel leadership should be blamed for having failed blatantly and it's protecting its own population owing to its apparently severely deficient surveillance agencies The leadership of both gangs should be encouraged and indeed pressured through public opinion to agree to an immediate truce and to at what and at once negotiations concerning the return of the hostages held by hamas should be started and as for the identification capture and punishment to the various individual perpetrators and their superior commanders including incidentally also those responsible for the israeli victims of friendly fire This should be left to regular police work to detectives headhunters and possibly also assassins What must be avoided however in any case and at all costs is an escalation of the armed conflict through a massive retaliatory strike By the israeli military against the hamas whole housing and hiding out in gaza This is even more so because israel with some 10 million inhabitants including a minority of two some two million arabs Is surrounded exclusively by some less than friendly or even openly hostile neighboring states with a total population Counting in the hundreds of millions and any escalation of the conflict between israel and hamas may well Expand and degenerate into an all-out war engulfing the entire region of the near and middle east But this is precisely what block a towel or demanding Based on their collectivist theory of inheritance presented in exhibit one and the alleged historical right of the jews to a homeland in Palestine derived from this theory block in response to the events of october 7th advocates an all-out attack by israel on the hamas hiding out in gaza And while we do not know if nettanyahu has read blocks piece in the wall street journal israel under his leadership has done exactly what block has been asking for Leaving blocks sketchy Characteristically one-sided remarks on the history of modern israel and the region aside Which could have come directly from the israeli ministry of propaganda and that show himself completely oblivious to the genocidal impulses openly expressed by several leading members of the mighty israeli military and government all the while making much hay out of the reciprocal sentiments on the side of the Comparatively speaking almost powerless amass leadership This in his own words are blocks demands with my italicized comments interspersed in parentheses So this may make a challenging live read, but i'll do what I can quoting from block The west needs to understand that to defend human life and dignity It isn't enough to claim to side with israel. It needs to understand that this means total unrestricted support commentary by hapa Does such support also include taxes forcibly taken by the various gang leaders in charge of western states from their own population Back to block That is nothing less than allowing this beleaguered country to defend itself fully To recognize that hamas needs to be destroyed for the same reason and by the same method that the nazis were oh well now You know that we're going off the rails uh quoting commentary from hapa Does nazis refer to all german's living in germany at the time including all non nazi nazi opponents and all german babies and children and does the method of their destruction Also include the carpet bombing of entire cities such as dresden filled with mostly innocent civilians Going back to block israel is entitled to do whatever it takes to uproot this evil residing next to it back to hapa How about the israeli jews opposed to war silence them too whatever it takes back to block And more important that once it begins to proceed in that direction it won't be demonized for defending that which is the core of western civilization Parenthetically by hapa does this core also include the sort of apartheid practices in israel Back to block and which its enemies hate the most the love of everyone's right to human life dignity and happiness. Oh, yeah beautiful. Yes Sentimentality it's always good Uh quoting from block in other words it needs to support a complete total and decisive israeli victory of this implies an overwhelming Unprecedented use of military force so be it hamas is and will be responsible for any civilian casualties cause and effect They created their own destruction and its consequences commentary by hapa So there is no need whatsoever to distinguish between members of hamas and inhabitants of gaza generally They all including all babies and children are indiscriminately guilty part of a depraved culture and a collective evil that must be rooted out once and for all How about dropping an atomic bomb on gaza then as the us did about 80 years ago on the civilian populations of Hiroshima and nagasaki as collective punishment for the crimes committed by the japanese government gang back to block Mere victory is not enough israel has won every war it ever fought this time the triumph must be so thorough and conclusive that there will never be Any other war for this country? That's pretty funny um uh hapa here Haven't we heard this before the war to end all wars? That's what they said about world war one if you don't know back to block Israel has a moral right to finish the job and the west has a moral duty to support it Let israel do whatever it must to finish this war in the fastest way possible with minimum civilian and military casualties on its side Back to hapa how considerate and totally meaningless even shameful after everything said to the contrary before about the irrelevance of civilian casualties back to block The consequences of this lie on the group that initiated the casual ca the causal sequence The one that must be completely destroyed namely hamas And so he's done quoting from block there and we return to hapa Whatever these outpourings of blocks are they are nothing whatsoever to do with libertarianism In fact to advocate the indiscriminate slaughter of innocence is the total and complete negation of libertarianism and the non-aggression principle The muri rock bard. I knew would have immediately called them out as unhinged monstrous unconscionable and sickening and publicly ridiculed Unfriended and excommunicated block is a rock bardian Indeed unforgivably with his wall street journal piece Block has made a contribution to the horrors actually following the events of october 7th and still unfolding The near complete destruction of gaza and its reduction to little more than some huge pile of rubble and vast fields of ruins The slaughter of tens of thousands of innocent civilians by the israeli military and the continuous widening of the armed conflict Including by now also the lebanon the lebanon and yemen and of the israeli leadership itching egging on in this endeavor by its neo-con compatriots in the us to further include as a target for destruction also the aran as israel's alleged deadly arch enemy Incidentally blocks supplementary reason for Given his uh Come on stop doing that Oh, that's the thing that I need to do. Sorry. I had a problem with my mouse Incidentally blocks supplementary reason given for his categorical we must all stand with israel position israeli government leadership at all Is also faulty and implies a betrayal of the non-aggression principle Essentially it boils down to this the jews in israel have made more and better use of the territory under their control than the arabs made or Are currently making with the territories controlled by them and hence the jews have a better claim to some territory in dispute than the arabs do This reasoning is actually quite popular However, even if the first part of this statement is accepted is true the second part does not follow from it Otherwise every man of proven success would be permitted to take the property of any long proven loser Which can hardly be reconciled with the libertarian non-aggression principle even losers have a right to life property in the pursuit of happiness If that is not already more than enough to forever disqualify Discredited block as a libertarian he manages to top it off in some short final exhibit that reveals him as a man without a sense of measure and proportion And we move on to exhibit three This concerns blocks reply to a short piece by kevin duffy Contrasting a passage taken from roth bards for a new liberty a new a libertarian manifesto. I'm sorry There is a different document titled The new libertarian manifesto written by sam konkin has nothing to do with this don't mistake the title For a new libertarian for a new liberty A libertarian manifesto that's roth bards piece that's being referenced here With a passage from the just quoted screed of blocks in the wall street journal link including that both are obviously incompatible and impossible to reconcile Blocks response can be found in the hyperlinked toast Titled have I gone a wall at walter blocked at sub stack calm Remarkably in his reply he does not even try to provide for the reason for his advocacy of total unrestricted war Not surprisingly as that would mean trying to defend what is absolutely truly and genuinely indefensible. Oh clever Instead he evades the direct challenge and then quickly digresses into some entirely different and unrelated subject matter Libertarians are not pacifists and indeed roth bard as block excusingly notes was not opposed to all war But conspicuously block then fails to say that the wars roth bard considered possibly or potentially justified Had nothing whatsoever in common with the sort of war actually proposed by him What roth bard had in mind was defensive violence used by secessionist movements against some central occupying powers Trying to prevent them by means of war from leaving I.e. somebody obviously a world apart from the total war advocated by block Yet in stating that roth bard does not oppose all war period block tries to create the deceptive impression from this that I'm sorry Created deceptive impression that his deviation from roth bard then is merely a minor one only a manner of degree Various deviations from roth bard he then continues have been suggested or proposed by other authors And he cites and links to his effect several contribute to this I'm sorry He links to this effect several contributions of his own of joseph celerno of peter klein and also myself not me hoppa and notes that none of these has led to the exclusion of anyone Of them as australibertarians nor would roth bard himself have excluded them as such on account of these writings Indeed roth bard embrace some of these deviations such as mine for instance And he may well have seriously considered the others Such then block claims should also be the appropriate reaction to his deviationist position on the war question And also what he believes would have been roth bard's personal reaction upon reading his wall street journal piece Groth tesk if anything this assessment of blocks only indicates that he has lost any sense of measure and proportion None of the other deviationist writings mentioned by him in comparison to and as an excuse and justification for his own deviation Is position on the war question is or can be interpreted by any stretch of the imagination as a break with or renunciation of the fundamental principles of australibertarian intellectual edifice But his call for total and unrestricted war and the indiscriminate slaughter of innocent civilians is actually The complete and in uninhibited rejection and redunciation of the non-aggression principle that constitutes one of the various Cornerstones of the roth bardian system to believe that roth bard would have given serious consideration to his wall street journal piece Is simply ridiculous and only indicates that blocks understanding of roth bard is not nearly as good as he Himself that sees it to be the roth bard I knew would have denounced the piece in no uncertain terms as monstrous and considered it an unforgivable aberration and disgrace Well, that is a strongly worded letter and an open one at that you know We're you know now we're a little after midnight. We're a little over time here So i'm not going to spend a whole lot of time on this, but i'll make a couple brief observations the first of which is I think hommes hop is great. I love hommes hop. He's been so influential on me And so don't mistake what i'm saying for anything negative against him, but These libertarian things about your libertarian you're not your excommunicated. This is cult jargon This is like this is the complete not I keep on warning the alt right and white nationalists against this You know Imagine this when I was on white rabbit radio not so long ago like i'm on white rabbit radio and there's A guy in the church like get well, it's not a white nationalist I'm like, okay fine faggot like You know Fine like I actually have nothing to gain or lose by you saying that what the fuck do I give a fuck if you think i'm a white nationalist You have to lose you take white nationalism seriously is a very bad investment for you to take a guy like me and be like You're not part of our movement because if i'm not then who the fuck is You know politics is uh, dishing and multiplication You're subtracting and dividing you lose, you know, unless you're doing it to the other side obviously Want to make your movement smaller go the fuck ahead And that's not to say that you know ideological coherence is impertinent or irrelevant But they do this all the time There as bad as the conservatives may be worse With their fucking ever so often with their purges right And You go through this like process where you know, you're quoting other bloggers and writers You know, there weren't blogs where Murray Rothbard was writing but You know articles and essays written by Murray Rothbard are taken as you know doctrine This is the this is the gospel and you've you've you've blasphemy by contradicting it um And just and you know and that's and to point out they're not making a hit against hobba by saying this that's exactly what Basically block seeks to justify a war animated by an ethnic An ethnocentric interest say okay And so he's like, okay Well, because I want to justify this war and because i'm recognized as a as a libertarian thinker I have to try to squeeze this in to the writings of Murray Rothbard and he goes and he's like, well, you know here's where rury Rothbard, you know was not contemptuous of waging war and Because I've got this You know this segment of his words. I can try to Influence you by thinking that my words have something to do with them This is crazy talk It's dogmatic ideological mysticism is what it is. Okay Okay What you know, hoppe goes through here with the property rights thing It's a perfect and very well articulated description of libertarian thoughts on property rights It's also completely fucking impractical and disconnected from reality. Okay, so like The idea that all property is going to be transferred individually And and all alt property is individual titles. Well, that's that odds with the entirety of the human experience There's no period of written history where anything like that was even conceivable And that doesn't mean that you know, we can't look forward to a future where things that are inconceivable now are conceivable, but Human societies have governments They collect taxes and part of the reason that they collect taxes Is because you don't want to be governed by the oil company. Okay You don't you don't want the the people who run around Shooting everybody and putting them in prison competing with you in business. There's good reasons for governments to be financed by taxation They do the thing that nobody else can do which is use violence to collect what they need, okay And then the government says nobody else is allowed to do that and they put you in prison for trying, right? And whatever you think about the justice of that That Is part of the reason why mankind is the undisputed ruling species of this planet Because our entire written history is constituted of that phenomenon I'm not opposed to a new future where we do things more peacefully or cooperatively. That's a great idea But let's stop acting like taxation is some Aberration it's not that's the perfectly normal state of affairs that has existed for as long as we've had the capacity to write down history And so there is such a thing as collective property That's obvious and hoppin knows that by the way, so like, you know when hoppin talks about immigration he says well The idea that the borders are open because the government doesn't have a legitimate claim to property is nonsense because in the absence of this coercive element That property would be owned by private property owners. They would not allow an invasion to pass across their lands And since the government has an illegitimate title through its coercive acquisition of the property the true holders of the title are the taxpayers And the taxpayers are the rightful owners of the government and therefore the taxpayers have the right to tell the government not to facilitate invasion And that's a very coherent You know thought process for the justification of the state is what that actually is The state is owned by the people who sustain it And they enter into you know, they are You i'm sorry for struggling to articulate this because it's complex and I really want to understand this If the state were comprised of voluntary members say they would enter into an agreement Not so dissimilar from any organization where they decide how differences of opinion within the organization are made, right? You have any corporate board Not everybody on the board has to agree for the corporation to do a thing and the state is you know In theory is not so different than respect So you have these people who are owners of the institution that we call the state And Hoppe talks about this. Well, we we could basically accomplish all of these things in voluntary terms If we just you know organize society this much differently But if you read democracy the god that failed and you sort of understand what it is that han's hop is getting to it It's it's hereditary monarchy. Okay, and i'm not opposed to that i'm not saying that as an attack on hoppe But once you have your covenant community, which is what he refers to as the covenant community where you basically form this territorial Thing by agreement Well like Children are born into that right and those people are born into this agreement that was made by their parents And the only way that they can alter the agreement is according to the terms of the agreement, right? So then you're right back to love it or leave it right you're back to exactly the thing that libertarians mock about conservatives Which is you were born here if you don't like it leave and then they say well i had no choice in the matter Well, you have no choice in the matter of your born in the covenant community except a walk away from it If that's a across a larger territory, what the fuck is the difference? There's not actually like a theoretical universal moral principle at work when you're saying that this larger territory is impossible to escape. It's not And so you know And I came to that conclusion because of hoppe so I don't want anybody to think that i'm attacking a guy. I think the guy is largely correct So like there's a real thing called the state. It's actually integral to our lives. It predates all of our other conceptions And it sustains itself through chorus of means And you can disagree with the justice of that, but you can't agree with the permanence of it At least today you could disagree on whether it has to be permanent in the future fine You can speculate theoretically about that theoretical future, but it exists today And there's actually no question about that and it has existed for as long as we've had means to record it And that is not a subject seriously disputed by honest people And so like you know to the israel palestine question, it's like look I'm a fucking anti-semite. Do I give a fuck about the well-being of the fucking jews? As a matter of fact not I would love nothing more than for the united states to stop backing these people up and let all the fucking islam soup Just pour into that jewish bowl, okay? And that's exactly what had happened in the second united states stop fucking around over there, which is exactly what should happen That's not because I give a fuck about the palestinian see there is you might have got But like this is a ethnic conflict between two groups of people these people want this territory These people want this territory They are going to kill one another and the people who prove more efficient at slaughter get the territory I mean that's actually the realpolitik of the matter All of your fucking Legalistic nonsense about you know Tracing property titles is out the window and the and the idea that these are I don't think that you know Hop is not really making this claim here, but libertarians tend to do it that they believe that their views are universal timeless Immortal moral facts, okay But when you look at that like legal analysis that he provides it becomes very plain to see that that's actually not the case, okay? So when you say okay, well, I have a I have a I have a title to this property You know when we say title we're not talking about a document you have a claim say I have claimed to this property And the only way I can actually act on that claim is if I go through some legal process and if I can't prove my claim then I don't get the property Okay, well, who's the arbiter of the dispute? You know who the what the answer that question is the state and libertarians They always have to they always had to gloss over that and be like well If it wasn't for the state then there'd be somebody you know You have to go into all of these like third and fourth order You know ideas to try to justify these ideas and they don't actually hold water fundamentally The people with the power Govern the territory they have the power to govern and they sustain themselves by coercive means that is a thus far inseparable fact from human existence and To create something else is a complete redesign of mankind and I think and that's what I really like I like Hitler, you know I had never heard before reading mine comp Never heard The state really explained like when hiller talks about the state he explains what the state is and it's basically You know, it's the society is an organism and the and the state is a very important bodily organism and has specific functions and When you subvert them, you're actually trying to kill the organism, you know And I don't think that you know, hoppe has bad intentions or is trying to kill mankind, you know block might be another story given his ethnic, you know history but Like that's what happens and so like land is transferred by conquest So when people are like, oh, well, you know, the Palestinians have a claim to this land of the jews have a claim to this land I'm like, I don't give a fuck Like native americans had a claim to land in the united states and then europeans game here and will like, yeah, fucking fuck you Have a smallpox blanket. I know I'm kidding, you know But they came over here and were like, yeah, you know, I'm just gonna go move, you know right over here You guys you guys don't believe in private property. Do you guys all just like kind of wander around? Okay? Well, we're gonna stay right fucking here. If you come around here, we'll fucking kill you And their way of life was superior to that of the people who were here prior to them and now You know, well not now so much now we're you know being taken over by jews and bipark or whatever But you know, that's how europeans conquered the united states and fucking say whatever you want about it I'm pretty fucking glad they did I don't want to hear any fucking nonsense about transferring property titles back to native americans. It's completely out of the question Haha, I don't give a fuck what legal theory you posit for it. No We won by conquest fuck you come and take it will kill you again. Try it. That's the answer to that fucking question And that's perfectly fine with me and I don't need to work that into some fucking legalistic framework It's like no like we came here and you're dead and we win shut up Don't come back to me when you're all black and you've been interbreeding with our slaves and then you're like, oh, well You know the people of the poos pituck indian reservation In surely new york Because you know forget the fact that they're all black they've been fucking indian broads and now and now they want their fucking Reparation, you know, whatever the fuck it is Told you that story before I'm not gonna get into it You know that like the this indian reservation where I used to go by cigarettes populated by black people It's all they're all black but they have tax exemption because they they Making some nonsensical fucking claim to the property by you know, they're supposed interbreeding with the god damn indians You know tracing these things back beyond a certain point becomes fucking impossible Yeah war is a means of transferring property and you can argue with the justice of that all the fuck you want But if you try to say that it doesn't exist as fact then your fucking ideas are going to cease to correspond with reality pretty quickly And that's going to become completely useless in practical exercises At which point you end up in these silly things where people are arguing about what amount to religious doctrines And so you know There you go exclude Walter block from libertarianism go ahead. I don't care. I'm not trying to fucking help libertarianism You know, Walter blocks don't a lot of good work for that for that You know for that school of thought and not and and no small portion of it is useful to the right You could do you could do well by reading defending the indefendable Like that was a pretty good book. You know, I could disagree with some of the things he says and it's fine You know, that makes perfect sense, but All of these ideas, you know What what is what is most remarkable to me about my ideological journey And which makes it impossible for me to fucking sustain these guys these ideas anymore Is how many times I've been Proving wrong about what I believed or my opinions have so like radically changed Okay, but like things that I thought were absolutes unquestionable things Became preposterous to me in a matter of months You go through that a couple of times and like you're you're gonna learn some fucking ideological humility And I think that we could all afford some of that Let me read these super chats and then I'll actually read one more thing that kind of in this vein um Real quick before we go. 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It got strike payments strike dot me slash can't well Uh do that bitcoin stuff all the crypto I'll take whatever crypto you want If you want to send me crypto in some way that you know is not listed at christopher can't well dot net slash donate Just go to christopher can't well dot contact send me an email and I will promptly respond to you Uh and do whatever you want to get your crypto be very happy to do that Give you a fresh bitcoin key give you a you know, uh take some You know eso charak non-popular coin you got whatever it takes. Love that crypto stuff And so you know in that vein of what I just said about how you know my ideas have changed so much over the years at a text conversation with my mom this more to matter fact and uh You see how much of this do I want to read it's not not for length It's not very long just thinking about it. I posted this to like this little inner circle thing that I sort of have My mom's recently retired and she's like on an extended vacation with my father, you know And um she was thinking about going back to work And part of the reason she wanted to go back to work was like For one, she's kind of like she's kind of bored or whatever She was you know her job kept her busy and she's like, what do I do now? So i'm like don't work to your dad get a hobby paint right You know play a musical instrument a pair experiment with drugs if you that board just know opiates amphetamines or cocaine with a smiley face Obviously don't want my mother getting you know Taken up a habit of taking lsd or whatever, but you know I make this as a joke But part of what she's like annoyed about is that sort of like my father and her or their their interests You know their interests are not in line So like my father's in control of the money and deciding what what they are going to do together So substantial likelihood that my mother's gonna be less interested in it than he is right And so I give this longer response to what my mother says It might be a tad late to make this observation But as I sense your dissatisfaction with this disparity of interests i'll share a thought with you Your interests and hiss have diverged in some part because you've had those resources of working for yourself And thus neither of you were forced to bring your interest into alignment Some might say that alignment is or was a defining characteristic of marriage I have no doubt there are many arguments against this theory also doubtless there's merit among more than a few But I am of the informed opinion that women forfeited more power than they gained by serving soulless corporations more than husbands To which i'll add though it should be too obvious to warrant mention is not to downplay in any way You're saintly patients for male Cantwell's or the heroic and honorable things you've done and sacrificed and tolerated for this family More a cultural observation which I hope might help you see your current dissatisfaction differently and find a bit more comfort In prison we have very little say over how the household budget is spent obviously And though our species would obviously not be long for this world where women to think of marriage as a prison I draw the comparison only to say that one tends to adjust to their circumstances and find happiness in even the worst of situations Once they are deprived of all other options And perhaps more to the point If you find happiness any sooner than that Fuck the fucking money you have everything you need the people who buy your life by the hour not helping you they're helping themselves I If you're bored I could recommend even buy for you as gift some excellent books And I mean life-changing books that will serve you long after you put them down Nothing fights boredom like having your worldview routinely shattered and reformed the most mundane things in your life become totally Fascinating novelties just by finding new ways to think about them And that last part is really what I meant to get out in the vein of what we just read which is that like The idea of trying to sustain a doctrine over the course of decades. It's like so tired to me, you know I can't imagine like how fucking awful would this show be If I was rattling on about this stuff still oh Those of you who tell me that you've been with me since the some garbage podcast days boy I get that pretty often a lot of you have been around from fucking like day one. I love that about you I doubt many podcast groups can say that by the way And so you think about that phenomenon That's why I don't give a fuck like people like you're on a hearing to the doctrine of my good fuck you The last fucking thing that I would want to aspire to is saying the same fucking thing over and over again for 20 Goddamn years leave me the fuck alone You better fucking hope that I have some new idea after a decade of doing this Go read a fucking book learn something and change your opinions Or you're gonna fucking stagnate and be bored and nobody's gonna want to talk to you And you see that with the libertarians all the time, you know I think you probably have more, you know Perhaps for the worst, you know innovation among religious fanatic Christians and shit, you know And That could go on for a very long time, but I've already put in an hour over time and you know you guys only paid me $114 an 88 cents. That's pretty fucking clever. 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Thanks for all the callers Thanks for the guy who brought the libertarian thing to my attention You know, I do I still think you know what the you libertarian thing is useful for and then we're going to anne we're getting out of here What it's useful for Is thinking about this fictitious scenario in order to compare it to others and then To shed new light on a thing right like libertarian theory still informs a lot of what I do What would this theoretical mechanical property based civilization look like? What are the benefits of it? What are the downsides and how can that inform my perspective of the more realistic proposal? Like that's useful. It's a it's a useful thought exercise. It's not the It's not the jewish plot and plague that a lot of right wingers make it out to be it's it's there's a lot of intellectual value there It's just not a system of government, you know See you monday for surreal politics when you call in please behave yourself. 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